Shellac lamp?

[emz765]

Hi Guys,

Just a quick one, Do you have to use the CND lamp when doing shellac?? I have a fab lamp that has a fan included aswel! Any advice would be great, thanks X

[woo87]

There's so many threads on this if you do a search. It's the type of questions that always comes up. But yes you do need to use CND lamp the whole system if your going to be doing shellac

[RebeccaQ]

Shellac is a complete system...including the lamp. If you use a different lamp you can't guarantee the Shellac will cure properly and also you would need to check with your insurance too xx

[zm85]

If you are looking into getting shellac I would say get the lamp too it's a top end product and using another lamp may cause problems as others have said and you don't want to give a less than average service so its worth making the investment. Shellac has been amazing for business and you will reap the benefits in the long run!
However as I'm only CND trained this is the only lamp I use but I do know some techs/salons that use the CND lamp with other products such as gelish and this is not an issue! Not sure why it's such a big deal when it's the other way around! And I've seen salons use shellac with other lamps too but can't comment if they have problems or not it seems a bit unprofessional and if i was a paying customer I'd want the full service
Just my two sides of the coin ...

[Ellebelle]

In a nutshell, yes you need the CnD lamp to cure Shellac and Brisa properly. others claim to cure the products with an alternative lamp, but they will never be able to be certain that their product is 100% fully cured.

Have a read of Envy's sticky at the top of the board about UV products.

Here is an extract

Heat Spike - this is the heat given off during an 'exothermic reaction' - In other words as the molucules get excited and move around some of their energy is released as heat, the faster they activate the more heat is given off. The nail bed has NO temperature nerves so it does not warn of heat - But it does have Pain sensors - so heat spike is not the nail getting hot, it is actually the nail screaming a warning that this delicate tissue it is hurt and burnt... As mentioned above 'hopefully' manufacturers are developing their UV system to avoid this occuring as it can cause real and sometimes permanent damage...

UV Lamps
There is a lot of heated debate over whether you are able to cure brand ‘X’ gel with brand ‘Y’ lamp.
*every single bulb on the market emits a slightly different strength of UV
*every different chamber reflects differently and has a different distance.
Different reflection will obviously affect the amount of UV light that is being focussed onto the gel.
*Distance from bulb to gel is hugely important as UV drops its intensity very rapidly, 1 extra inch of distance may mean only 50% of the UV reaches the gel.
Because of these variables every single lamp means a different rate of exposure to the product, so there is NO WAY you can ever say it has worked ‘properly’ unless you are in the lab and can test OR
If you follow the professional advice of the company that has already done this reserach

When Doug Schoon was formulating BRiSA gel, his initial aim was to make a gel that could work with any lamp – but they soon realised that to produce a gel that cured thoroughly and fully without heat spike that there was nothing currently available that could ensure it would work safely. So much testing went in and they developed the CND UV lamp to perfectly match the lower levels of the newly formulated BRiSA.

Doug has a great article that you should ALL read and understand:
http://www.schoonscientific.com/down...-to-Curing.pdf

In summary
As a professional – you would not mix brand ‘x’ liquid with brand ‘y’ powder – why? – Because this is unprofessional, unsafe science dabbling and voids any protection or legal cover you may have. The same rule applies 100% to gel and matching lamp.

E xx. (Envy's words in red)

[miss_rhi]

Take it from someone who used another type of UV lamp & only ended up with problems... In short - YES, you need the Shellac lamp. There is absolutely no comparison between the Shellac lamp and my other lamp. It is an excellent piece of equipment & well worth every cent.

[stephiebaby]

Take it from someone who used another type of UV lamp & only ended up with problems... In short - YES, you need the Shellac lamp. There is absolutely no comparison between the Shellac lamp and my other lamp. It is an excellent piece of equipment & well worth every cent.

I second this. I have very openly admitted on here that I used a different lamp to start with because I didn't believe the hype about the CND lamp. That was April 2011, I only used it on myself and mum, never on clients.Everything was fine for first set or two (or so I thought) then it started chipping all the time, I tried everything and was following aftercare properly so guess what I did?! I bought the CND lamp and I've had no problems what so ever. Yes I've had the occasional client with chips but they are the ones who have openly abused their nails or not followed aftercare.

Other than that your insurance will be void if a claim isade against you because you haven't used the correct lamp. It's a no brainer really, use the correct lamp! It doesnt cost that much and is totally worth it.
xxx

[izzidoll]

As this thread is a couple of months old....and there are plenty of other lamp threads without resurrecting oldies, I think Stephiebaby has given us a good note to close on !
So I shall x