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21-10-09, 02:31 PM

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so am i right in thinking you would just leave them to die!! if they had entered your country illegally they did so seeking a better lifestyle,it happens daily here and yes they should be made to pay, maybe by doing community work,or actually given citizenship so they can join the system,and pay taxes as i believe obama is suggesting but we would never leave someone to die because they couldnt afford the health care GOD BLESS AMERICA
It's because this country is such a soft touch that we have so many illegal immigrants in the first place!
The problem needs to be dealt with and we need stricter controls about who can come into this country.
I'm sorry but you look after your own first!
We have thousands of people living on the street, living in poverty or living on the breadline and yet we still continue to let people into this country and then give them free healthcare!
If we weren't seen as such a soft touch then there wouldn't be so many people coming into this country.
We don't want to seem as if we lack compassion but where is the compassion to the law abiding,tax paying people of this country that are denied healthcare due to lack of funds!
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so am i right in thinking you would just leave them to die!! if they had entered your country illegally they did so seeking a better lifestyle,
Why can't they come into the country LEGALLY????? Tons of folks have done it/do it every day!
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And I 'love' how now we're going to legalize all the illegals so they will qualify for the 'program'. Yes, I'm afraid many have forgotten 911. I, for one, have not.
[/QUOTE] out of the 19 bombers 19 entered your country legally 5 had out of date visas the other 14 were there totally legally and used genuine id to board the aircraft!!
by offering an amnesty on the illegals surely it would make them start to pay into your system and be easier to keep track on them they are already in your country what difference will it make to legalize them i hope our government do the same soon so that the 1000s of illegals here can come out of the sweatshops and start earning the minimum wage and paying taxes like the rest of us
i dont think this forum is really the place for political discussions but for what its worth i think obama is doing the right thing
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21-10-09, 02:57 PM

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i dont think this forum is really the place for political discussions but for what its worth i think obama is doing the right thing
Personally, I think this has been a great thread, with differing viewpoints. Very thought provoking, indeed! We disagree on Obama but that's the beauty of living in a free society. It's OK to disagree!
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21-10-09, 03:02 PM

I must admit, I am a big fan of Obama. He seems to be the polar opposite of George W Bush (in my opinion, George Bush Senior mis-spelled his son's middle name, as it should have been an anagram of "Newark" rather than being named after a popular brand of crisps in the UK)...
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21-10-09, 09:03 PM

Yea, I'm not going to argue the points anymore, we each have our own opinion. Which is what makes this whole thing difficult.

I will apologize to Tanya because I did read incorrectly her comment about ER. Other than that we will have to agree to disagree. I do know two things and that is the only choice we have right now is to pay out the nose for health insurance or don't have any. And has far as jobs, I guess you haven't experienced a job loss lately. It isn't that easy to get a job if you lose one right now. Millions are w/o one right now and w/o health insurance.

I'm still not sure what 9/11 has to do with healthcare, but anyways.......

As far as legalizing imigrants in the US, it isn't that easy from what I've heard from some who have done it and it is expensive. They have to hire an attorney. Crazy uh?? And some don't want to become citizens. Even crazier, why wouldn't they??? lol

Been an interesting thread and educational to see how things are overseas. Thank You for sharing.
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21-10-09, 11:52 PM

i am visiting America for the 1st time in January and i am really looking forward to it and yes ladies i am entering legally and i have health insurance for my visit !!
I to have enjoyed this thread nobody has insulted any body its been a great discussion despite our differences in opinions its so good to interact with people from a different country with similar issues, affecting there society hugs all round i think
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No hard feelings, everyone, this has been an educational thread. We are good people, with good intentions, that is why we are in this business Just goes to show we can talk about other things besides beauty

Steve, enjoy your trip! Have you looked into getting an international drivers license? From what I hear they are easy to get and come in quite handy when renting a car.

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i am visiting America for the 1st time in January and i am really looking forward to it and yes ladies i am entering legally and i have health insurance for my visit !!
I to have enjoyed this thread nobody has insulted any body its been a great discussion despite our differences in opinions its so good to interact with people from a different country with similar issues, affecting there society hugs all round i think
I so agree, this has been a great discussion! Where in the US will you be visiting? I hope somewhere WARM!
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we are going to florida after xmas,myself mrs nouvatan and my 2 kids aged 10 and 9 were hoping to visit miami as well were there for 17 days and our driving licence is accepted over there we have already booked the cars
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we are going to florida after xmas,myself mrs nouvatan and my 2 kids aged 10 and 9 were hoping to visit miami as well were there for 17 days and our driving licence is accepted over there we have already booked the cars
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I like the choice, I can use the NHS or could go private if I had the funds. I would rather pay into a scheme where I am assured help rather than one where I could end up not being insured as I have been sick in the past or I didn't fill in the right form.
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I'm sorry but you look after your own first!
We're all people first and foremost. If I was being persecuted I would hope someone would take me in. Yes people exploit the system but in their eyes they are doing the best for their "own."
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