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04-01-06, 10:11 PM

With Balmain, you can tint the hair to match the client's own colour....and the stylists in the salon were taught to razor cut the hair to blend in....which being stylists they know how to do anyway. Plus, you cannot cut in the traditional way with scissors because you don't have any lines to follow as the extensions differ in length to the natural hair all over the head.....listen to me pseudo hairdresser...picked up a lot of theory along the way...wouldn't want to try and emulate their skill though!!
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04-01-06, 10:12 PM

Hiya,
Yup, know all about the nightmare of cutting extensions. you might have seen the my disaster pic from a couple of weeks ago...

However, i've since got in touch with a hairdresser friend of mine who is experienced in cutting them and got advice.. (so i'll have somewhere to recommend my would-be clients to go for their cut)

I went to get my extionsions trimmed and they cut them with scissors... ooops. I've since had them redone and layered the back and feathered round the front myself ( razor cut ) and i haven't ended up with the usual "glamour model mullet".
I've already been to Ellisons a few months ago, looked into balmain (double hair and pre-bonded) Spoke to a lady at balmain who sent me the training dvd on applying, cutting and blending... not really interested in that method though.
I want to learn the single strand fusion method first.

I did a year and a half training in a hairdressing salon but couldn't afford to live on £70 a week and i don't really like the cutting part. you and the client often have a very different idea about what it's going to look like.

I have been researching this (for a few months) and i'm not going to be unleashing myself on the public until i'm fully qualified and insured. And i'm not claiming to be a qualified hairdresser, i plan to offer the services of a hair extensionist.
Might even keep it as a hobby like my nails, i only do about 4-5 clients on an average week, i just like learning new things. i'll be a legal account assistant for a long while yet.

Sorry if i offended any hairdressers out there! i don't assume that this is something i can just "pick up" .... i know it's just going to be me and Chardonnay (my practice head) for a long while yet.
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04-01-06, 10:26 PM

We were taught to use a razor but the hairdresser's on the course said get thinning scissors.....to soften the edge of the natural hair so there wasn't a ledge?? Does that make sense? I felt out of my depth on this part tho and wish there was more time decicated to it .....hence the extra training I am doing this year!! If I don't launch my hair extension service this year tho I think I'll have to think about selling it. Eeek!!
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04-01-06, 10:35 PM

i can't see that uv offended any hairdressers u haven't offended me good luck to u! some hairdressers may be relieved i mean how many salons are there stuck in 60's that still oni just have blue rinses, perms and hi lights thru the cap never mind extensions lol saying that 99.9% of custom is ur regulars ( usually older ladies) and perms!
madabout nails: yeh that does make sense! lol it will all fall into place! burnt ur finger on glue gun yet? now that hurts!!!!
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04-01-06, 11:20 PM

I've already been to Ellisons a few months ago, looked into balmain (double hair and pre-bonded) Spoke to a lady at balmain who sent me the training dvd on applying, cutting and blending... not really interested in that method though.
I want to learn the single strand fusion method first.




can you explain what the difference is please, they do the balmain course near me and i was curious about it.
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04-01-06, 11:23 PM

mane connection that i trained with did the single strand fusion method, never seen any other method apart from wefts can't see any other method besides single lookin natural
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04-01-06, 11:24 PM

so..............if someone said i can apply your nail extensions and overlay any colour you like any length you like but ahhh... i cant file & shape them you have to go to someone else to do that........would you be happy?

I dont want to come across in the way i think im going to ....but i dont see how you can apply extensions if you CANT CUT HAIR OR ARENT A QUALIFIED HAIRDRESSER?????????????????
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04-01-06, 11:34 PM

when people aren't trained to cut the extensions its usually reflected in their prices so for someone to go to a salon have their extensions done and blended in and everything it might be cheaper for them to have the extensions done then go and have them blended in by a hairdresser thats y sum people may do it. However sayin that when a hairdresser doesn't kno the origin of the extension eg the make, company brand etc they may be reluctant to touch it
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04-01-06, 11:38 PM

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so..............if someone said i can apply your nail extensions and overlay any colour you like any length you like but ahhh... i cant file & shape them you have to go to someone else to do that........would you be happy?

I dont want to come across in the way i think im going to ....but i dont see how you can apply extensions if you CANT CUT HAIR OR ARENT A QUALIFIED HAIRDRESSER?????????????????
got to agree...seems like a long way round to do it...1 place to have them fitted and another to get them cut and styled..who does she go to when she is not happy...? would you blame the stylist....would the stylist blame you...could get complicated.
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04-01-06, 11:42 PM

i wouldn't reccomended havin the two done seperatly but its whateva people budgets are innit? extensions aren't cheap, the ones i have is actual human european hair and being blonde its expensive.the price goes up the longer the length but also goes up the lighter ur hair is and mine is practically white lol salons have to take into account the money they'd lose while doin the extension cos they take hours so thats added on the hair price then the actual price for doing them its a dear do!
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04-01-06, 11:42 PM

Yup, pre - bonded is where the hair has a small u shaped keratin tip on it.
you then use a heat connector on it. clamp it a few times to heat it and then roll between your fingers to bond.
The double hair method uses weft flapped in two???? bit hard to explain...
here's the link...

http://www.doublehair.com/UK/index.html

I want to learn the single fusion because you put the glue onyourself so you have more control for blending the colours, size of bond and amount of hair.

But hey, i'm not a hairdresser........

Sorry minkus but it's not comparable to nails.. have you ever had extensions?
I have, and quite a few friends that have... and not one of them had them cut at the same place that applied them.
you want hair applied, you go to an extensionist, you want it cut you go to a hairdresser. Normally the one you have been going to for years.
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04-01-06, 11:47 PM

my friend worked at a different salon and hers were put in that way pre bonded she said it hurt tho when u actually did them becos obviously the glues hot and u rub it with ur hands, with the single fusion one u at least get a rubber strip to roll the glue to the hair
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04-01-06, 11:47 PM

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Sorry minkus but it's not comparable to nails.. have you ever had extensions?
I have, and quite a few friends that have... and not one of them had them cut at the same place that applied them.
you want hair applied, you go to an extensionist, you want it cut you go to a hairdresser. Normally the one you have been going to for years.
nope never had them matey ! so i dont know what i am talking about just saying it how i would see it from a consumers point of view.... i am real particular about my hair and i wouldnt dare to even have them. (and ive seen some well DODGY ones applied )

If i did think about having them EVER i would want to go to a top notch experienced salon that applied them professionally and cut them to my particular requirements!

Hey but that just me im sure you'll do well out of it ....its certainly popular.

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04-01-06, 11:48 PM

we have a salon where we live and they do both.. apply and cut/style...and believe me they ain't no two bob salon either...you need a re mortgage to go there..
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04-01-06, 11:51 PM

its like anything i suppose even nails u can tell a bodged up job to a perfect job but regardless of who does them as long as they look how they are suppose to and natural and the customer is happy with them it doesn't matter does it
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