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07-06-08, 06:08 PM

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Great idea...I always forget about the groups though as they're kind of buried in the background and not something I think about when I log on.
i'm the same cathie !
also i think sometimes you may not really be looking for an event as such and seeing others discussing them might inspire others to attend an event that they would not have otherwise considered.
actively having to search a group might mean others that dont understand all the functions of the site may miss out too. at least if its in a forum, it comes to notice when you hit the "whats new" button.
training events may be of benefit to the provider, but they are also benefiting our industry , and that is something we are all for.
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07-06-08, 06:11 PM

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Why would someone put an event on the geek with the hope that non-geeks and unregistered users would see it ? The Google webcrawlers have so much stuff to munch that the chances of a non-geek hitting on an event would be very low. that's why a lot of geeks have their own websites.
This site is constantly crawled by the search bots/spiders, you can see them by viewing the Who's Online pages.

Go to Google (search the web as opposed to UK only) and type in:
waxing training - this site is the 2nd link
waxing workshop - this site is the 2nd link
wax training - this site is the 3rd link
wax workshop - this site is the 6th link
...and that's just using 'wax/waxing', so yes, there is an extremely high % chance of promotional threads being picked up by unregistered users.
Those results will obviously change day on day, but at the time of this thread those were the rankings.

Should all geeks be banned from having their websites in their signatures as technically we are all promoting ourselves ?
Unregistered members can't see our signatures, the same as they can't view the Groups, Blogs and profiles.
hth's explain it a bit more.
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Thanks Sandi - 07-06-08, 07:12 PM

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hth's explain it a bit more.
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That does explain it better and it's making more sense to me now. Sometimes decisions without the context can seem bizarre, but when you get the background it makes more sense. I'm very much a 'whyer' in that I need to know why to process something.

I'd never thought of using the geek as a method of advertising on the internet. Maybe I'm not as astute as I'd like to think

Has the idea of closing the forum to registered users only been explored and if so what was the thinking and conclusion ? I can see pros and cons and am not sure where the balance point is. Closing access would satisfy the advertising thing, allow the rules to be relaxed and make moderation what it should be - a privilege and a pleasure. I'm sure that sounds attractive

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07-06-08, 07:24 PM

Although this is slightly going off the topic but I will try and answer your questions re the access to unregistered users. Unregistered users can read the posts on the forums as far as I know but they cannot see certain things, like blogs, profiles and signatures (I didnt know this).

I am unsure as to your meaning behind your last statement about closing access satisfying the advertising thing - are you saying that giving information solely to geeks will not be construed as advertising?

If I can get the thread back on track as to the thought processes behind the Events Group.

We have so many complaints from members about posts mentioning events as being advertising, we will reply along the lines of one is free and the other is not - but there are varying degrees of free in some views. I think that was done to death yesterday.

The Events group was introduced as an Information giver and not a discussion giver - list the event and if people want to ask you a question then they can PM you as their question is for one person.

This was my thought process, rightly or wrongly and it was a trial which we may decide doesnt work. But please lets give it a fair try rather than condemning it before it gets started.
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07-06-08, 07:43 PM

Well put Fiona
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07-06-08, 07:45 PM

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I am unsure as to your meaning behind your last statement about closing access satisfying the advertising thing - are you saying that giving information solely to geeks will not be construed as advertising?

This was my thought process, rightly or wrongly and it was a trial which we may decide doesnt work. But please lets give it a fair try rather than condemning it before it gets started.
I was just reacting to Sandi's post. She said the rational of using groups was that they are not seen by unregistered users. the closed forum gives the same outcome.

I'm not condemning things, just exploring options that may be better. It's good to hear this is a trial. what time limit have you decided on for the review to see whether it is successful or not and what will your success criteria be ?

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