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Affirmation ... why do so many need it? - 23-09-09, 09:34 PM

I notice as I'm sure we all have ... that in the last few weeks there have been a gazillion threads asking us to look at logos, web sites, salon names etc. and give opinions.

My question is ... why do so many need the affirmation of others to make a decision? Do they not have any instinct for what is good and what isn't? And does this apparent insecurity bode well for a successful future in business?

In running and starting a business people are going to have to learn to make their own decisions and not need to seek affirmation constantly from others that what they are doing is OK. Is it just me?? I just don't get it. I really don't.
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23-09-09, 09:48 PM

No its not just you.
Maybe too many followers and not enough leaders.
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23-09-09, 09:58 PM

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Maybe too many followers and not enough leaders.
Well no, thats not fair, i myself have posted a thread about a logo for my business, alot of us on here work by ourselves so have no one to bounce ideas around with, thats where this site comes in as everyone on here is kind of like your co-worker. If we cant bounce ideas or talk about logos etc with each other then who else are we going to be able to talk to?? the wall?? I dont think we'll get much of a result from that now would we? lol
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23-09-09, 10:06 PM

I totally agree.

We all want to produce a leaflet/flyer etc that stands out from the rest.

I produce all my own price lists, business cards, aftercare leaflets, next appointment card, Voucher cards etc. & I have only ever asked a family member to check through my first draft, just to make sure that looking at them from a clients perspective, that they make sense and that they are clear and concise. (as my spelling can let me down.lol)

My stationary is personal to me because I designed it, used photos of my own work, and I am happy with all of the designs, as I have made them they way I wanted them to look and I don't feel that I need anyone else to tell me if they are good or bad.

Sorry if I sound stroppy - don't mean to

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23-09-09, 10:09 PM

Personally speeking, I'm brand new to business and the beauty world so I'm asking advice/opinions from the professionals.

It worked for me and I'm really grateful. I got help on my name and I think the new name sounds great. I couldn't have come up with it myself and I was asking the opinions from my hubby and friends. None of them came up with anything as good.
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23-09-09, 10:16 PM

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Well no, thats not fair, i myself have posted a thread about a logo for my business, alot of us on here work by ourselves so have no one to bounce ideas around with, thats where this site comes in as everyone on here is kind of like your co-worker. If we cant bounce ideas or talk about logos etc with each other then who else are we going to be able to talk to?? the wall?? I dont think we'll get much of a result from that now would we? lol
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But the thing is, noone is going to say if they think your logo is pants....well, if they do they will get a backlashing for it as I discovered lol ! These things are always a matter of opinion and everyone has their own opinion. If it's your business and your future, it's ultimately your decision. Ask family members and friends what they think, they're more likely to give you honest opinions, good or bad.

I know 100% about working on your own and that is why this site has always been a godsend to me as I can network with other professionals, sort out any product or service issues and hopefully help a few others along the way.
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23-09-09, 10:25 PM

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But the thing is, noone is going to say if they think your logo is pants....well, if they do they will get a backlashing for it as I discovered lol ! These things are always a matter of opinion and everyone has their own opinion. If it's your business and your future, it's ultimately your decision. Ask family members and friends what they think, they're more likely to give you honest opinions, good or bad.

I know 100% about working on your own and that is why this site has always been a godsend to me as I can network with other professionals, sort out any product or service issues and hopefully help a few others along the way.
I agree Cathie, it is a hard one really.

I think it is different when you have a design or logo in mind and just want some help in deciding, like an affirmation if you like, that what you picked was what others liked. Kind of cements it.

However, I have seen a couple of threads looking for a business name and it is like pulling teeth to get any info at all, now that drives me mental!
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23-09-09, 10:25 PM

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But the thing is, noone is going to say if they think your logo is pants....well, if they do they will get a backlashing for it as I discovered lol ! These things are always a matter of opinion and everyone has their own opinion. If it's your business and your future, it's ultimately your decision. Ask family members and friends what they think, they're more likely to give you honest opinions, good or bad.

I know 100% about working on your own and that is why this site has always been a godsend to me as I can network with other professionals, sort out any product or service issues and hopefully help a few others along the way.
Yeah i get what your saying, and yes everyone has their own opinion but at the end of the day this is a forum where people can get together and chat about all sorts of stuff which means that if someone wants to ask an opinion they can, its in the title of the thread, if someone doesn't want to read it then dont click the link. Its the same with everything, i dont get the ezflow vs cnd threads but i dont moan about them because i just dont read them, someone has asked that question and really wants an answer, i dont have an answer for them so i dont post, i move on to another thread.
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23-09-09, 10:41 PM

I don't mind giving my opinion on logo's. The only trouble is that they all look the same. Is it the same company doing them?
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I don't mind giving my opinion on logo's. The only trouble is that they all look the same. Is it the same company doing them?
It certainly looks that way to me - hence why I - and I suspect others, stopped opening those threads LONG ago..........
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23-09-09, 10:55 PM

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Yeah i get what your saying, and yes everyone has their own opinion but at the end of the day this is a forum where people can get together and chat about all sorts of stuff which means that if someone wants to ask an opinion they can, its in the title of the thread, if someone doesn't want to read it then dont click the link. Its the same with everything, i dont get the ezflow vs cnd threads but i dont moan about them because i just dont read them, someone has asked that question and really wants an answer, i dont have an answer for them so i dont post, i move on to another thread.
It all comes back to the old adage....if you have nothing good to say, say nothing....I have plenty of opinions but if they aren't positive, especially about products, I won't post them.....goes against the ethos of sharing experience I guess but that's just the way it is.

I guess the moderators have to read all the threads to moderate the site, so they see them all and can't just read the title and move on.
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23-09-09, 11:08 PM

Geeg My question is ... why do so many need the affirmation of others to make a decision? Do they not have any instinct for what is good and what isn't? And does this apparent insecurity bode well for a successful future in business?

Pretty You This site would not exist without your para above, I believe salon geek was for professionals seeking security, advice and help from others. In the many forums there are many questions about our profession whether it be scientific or business. This was correctly posted as was mine to you earlier. I thank you for that, but I do believe you have a hacker into your profile, as this is not like you Geeg?
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23-09-09, 11:16 PM

I like to get an idea of how other people 'perceive' myself and business by my advertising......website/bus cards/logo's etc

Like... yes that looks 'clean' or no that's a bit fussy, don't like those colours.

Ultimately, I'll go with what 'I' like but it's good to get a bit of feedback be it good or bad!
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23-09-09, 11:16 PM

I think some people just like to have others to bounce ideas off. it can be a lonely existence if you are working alone and i can see why people post up here about such things if they dont have anyone else to ask.

I was once told by a rep selling skincare to ditch my salon name. I didnt listen and I am very glad I didnt. my salon name has made me.

I would say to anyone, if you like it , then go with it!

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23-09-09, 11:28 PM

I don't really need affirmation, I really do know what I do and don't like. I just post to keep the site going because if no-one posted about 'this and that' or 'do you like this or not' or 'which one do you think is the best', we wouldn't be here.
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