does anyone find that sometimes lowlights over bleached hair (either full head or highlighted) can come out a bit wishy washy, not deep enough colour? i have used gold basics like 8.3 in loreal but still find that they dont give a nice rich colour. do i need to add base and treat the hair as if it was white hair as it has no/little pigment?

by the way im new :P

If your covering white or blonde always formulate your colour one shade darker

I always use tone on tone/quasi colours for lowlights a the grab much better on bleached hair. using permanent, you're always lifting before depositing making the hair more and more damaged and the colour will fade quicker and quicker

Was going to say quasis are great and much nicer result x

Just to add to this - if you find tone a problem go warmer than a gold - I often find on really damaged hair that gold is wishy washy - go for a copper tone if it's a lowlight as the damaged hair will soak up warmth and look 10 times better

I have used copper before say a 6/4 with 6% on a dyed 9/1 and it went really copper! Any ideas?

9/1 isn't very damaged (unless you bleached it all first) so it wouldn't soak up the warmth, altough 9/1 should have neutralised some of the 6/4 but not considerably as its a lot lighter

Just go for Quasi, never fails

If it was over a 9-1 it would go really copper as 9 is just a high lift wouldn't be as damaging as a bleach.

Go for a warmer quasi with a copper tone in it - the copper shouldn't pop out as Ginger/copper it should just make the colour stick a bit better and not go wishy washy.

Thanks! The only reason I used the copper is because on a 9/1 with 12% (causing it to look more like 8.3 because on the natural base 6) the 6.3 looked a bit Kharki to me! :/ sometime I feel like. Colours too unpredictable! thanks for all your input so far people x

what colours do you use?

Majireal or koleston perfect

Majirel's great, but i always find wella colours kahki/greeny