Pre pigmenting - Page 2

*JOANNE* · 23-06-09, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by minky

Hi, I haven't seen the clynol ones either , so thats good to know , it's a good idea putting it in a bowl and using a brush for foils , a lot more professional
thanks Joanne

ha ha , I just had a visual of me standing there trying to squirt the red
pre pigger foam on the foils straight out of the can and it going everywhere but the foils ha ha

slowly losing it me thinks lols x

lol

Jeni Giles · 24-06-09, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by clare_bear

we had a very senior TIGI rep. come to our salon on tuesday to teach us about their whole range, he was absolutely adamant that pre pigging is a waste of time and is a complete fabrication to get money from stylists. He said that if someone is full head bleached blonde or very light blonde, if ur putting a darker colour on, then the colour already has the pigments needed to stop it going khaki. I think this makes sense if u think about the principles of underlying pigments. i know that he wasn't making it up because he wasn't there to sell us any products. if you think about it, it makes sense (a base 6 colour should have orange and yellow pigments in it anyway to make it that colour)

You're right, sort of....

A base 6 will have some yellow and orange in it, but unless it is a gold, orange, red or yellow base, there isn't enough to keep the hair from going an off tone. A base 6 with a ash or cool tone won't have enough yellow and orange to keep the hair from appearing khaki at best, grey at worst.

Each manufacturer has a slightly different tone to their bases, unless you know the actual tone of THAT base 6, prepig is strongly recommended (unless you really, really like consoling tears and convincing the overwrought client you DO know what you are doing...

"American" colors usually have a warmer tone or blended tones, where "European" colors have a pure tone and a true neutral to mix with. There are always exceptions to the rule, but generally speaking, you can go to a base 6 with an "American" brand- Scruples, Clairol- and be alright.

Students will try pretty much anything, including slapping color from a box over their previously bleached hair because they wanted something different with out filling. Sometimes it comes out fine (others its greenish) the biggest issue is with fading.

Prepigmentation puts enough artificial molecules back in the hair that it doesn't fade as quickly and when it does fade it usually fades as an acceptable color instead of going flat or grey.

minky · 24-06-09, 09:32 PM

Hi, Wella always reccomend pre pigmenting before putting any darker colours over bleached hair , in the UK we still get the dreaded grab......
so it would be nice to use a good colour line knowing you wouldn't get grab
that would be really great