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07-11-09, 11:03 PM

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While you are here Gigi...would you top coat over the effects?????
I always use a top coat ... the Effects are not a top coat and I like the protection a top coat gives for long wearing of the colour.
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07-11-09, 11:22 PM

Hi I have the CND colors and today I did a hot oil treatment and tidy and polish, I started with stickey base coat, one thin color then when all ten done go back to start and another thin coat then super shiney perfect nice and dry, I have 3 of the new colors and 4 effects and they dry so fast it untrue and love the brush, am waiting on the color wheel before I buy anymore but I will be buying more can't wait, I have some other varnishes which I acquired from another company and even they dry in a good time
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07-11-09, 11:35 PM

There are a couple things I don't care for in the new CND line, but it is certainly not the drying time! It's one of it's best features. In fact, most of the colors only need one coat of the color, one of the effect-particularly the darker colors. Some of the lighter ones need two. Just about every one of my clients have commented on the quick drying time. And I'd imagine that 3 coats of any polish would take longer to dry...
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08-11-09, 02:30 PM

Well i have bought a range of the old colours now, so i cant pay out for all the new colours, if i do that i may as well buy a new range.

CND is a top range i shouldnt be experiencing this. I tried 4 brands before choosing CND because the one bottle i tried was old and sold it too me, lovely thick, 2 coats all good. Then i buy the range and its like i have bought a really cheap one. I already bought a cheap range to start with and decided that was rubbish, so money lost already on varnish.


I can only think of 3 things:

* Not using the creative base and top coats.
* My room is fairly cold.
* They are new and are still very watery (as in my experience, the older ones get gloupy = better coverage, less coats)

HELP ME
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08-11-09, 03:37 PM

Without seeing the polish and how it goes on, it's kind of hard to help. I personally prefer a really thin polish. As soon as it gets a bit thick, I pitch it. CND is made thinner so it lasts longer, but I've never had it not cover in two coats. Are you trying to get sheer colors to be opaque? 2 coats is how the color is supposed to be..if it's sheer, it's sheer. How is your polish technique? If streakiness is your problem and why you need two coats, maybe you need to re-evaluate your polishing. There are tutorials on here for that.

If it's none of that and the polish is truly rubbish (which is hard to believe if you bought from a reputable company), I'd call them and talk to them about the issue. If you bought a lot of the discontinued polishes off ebay or something because they were cheap, well all I can say is lesson learned..
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Without seeing the polish and how it goes on, it's kind of hard to help. I personally prefer a really thin polish. As soon as it gets a bit thick, I pitch it. CND is made thinner so it lasts longer, but I've never had it not cover in two coats. Are you trying to get sheer colors to be opaque? 2 coats is how the color is supposed to be..if it's sheer, it's sheer. How is your polish technique? If streakiness is your problem and why you need two coats, maybe you need to re-evaluate your polishing. There are tutorials on here for that.

If it's none of that and the polish is truly rubbish (which is hard to believe if you bought from a reputable company), I'd call them and talk to them about the issue. If you bought a lot of the discontinued polishes off ebay or something because they were cheap, well all I can say is lesson learned..
All bought from a reputable suppliers. Im talking about the colours not the sheers. And i sware i cannot get away with 2 coats, all have to have 3. I am very experienced Beauty Therapist and i can polish. Ive never had problems like this with all the ranges and even some high street brands.

I will contact CND and the suppliers as it seems nobody else has these problems.

I have only used about 6 of the colours out of the lot but all 6 have taken 3 coats and are so runny. Maybe i can take pictures and post...
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08-11-09, 04:39 PM

Gigi, Can I just ask? I read on here somewhere (can't remember where which is why I am asking here) that you use CND french white. Is this the actual name of the polish as I do not seem to see it in the CND brochure or am I being thick?
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08-11-09, 04:55 PM

Just contacted the suppliers and Creative, waiting reply.

Think i will order sticky and speedy top coat, ill wait reply first though.

Who uses speedy top coat? any good? I do use speed spray already though.

Does anyone know if you can UV dry these polishes? i see there is a UV dry coat in my Ellisons mag, but funnily enough no description or price underneath? Does anyone use it?
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ONE thin light coat of voodoo black, black takes 3 coats. - 08-11-09, 06:10 PM



Note this is my boyfriends nail i quickly did just now. lol
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2nd coat - note this is quickly done. - 08-11-09, 06:11 PM

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The left is an older and thicker one. That is with one coat.
The black is new and runny, one coat.
These are very similar in bottle both very dark.

I think im onto something with the consistency thing. Maybe i should leave the lids off for a day or two?

lol dont you just love the hairy fingers and polish look!
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08-11-09, 06:16 PM

Out of interest, could you do the same with another brand of polish to give a comparison as this would presumably discount technique or room temp being the cause of the problem?
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08-11-09, 06:24 PM

I have had the same thing with voodoo but that is the only colour I needed to use 3 coats.

Hope you get your answers x
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08-11-09, 06:27 PM

I actually have the heating on fairly high tonight when i just did them.

Ive never had a problem with technique, i promise you it cant be that. Unless the techique is so completely different i would need training on this, which i doubt, its just another nail varnish.

I left him for 15 mins and gentlypressed my thumb on 2 of his nails i painted. One being the 3 coat black and as expected a big finger print easily done, i smoothed over and got rid, but thats not the point, that was not dry enough for a client to leave my salon and drive her car with. The other was two coats of red, still felt i could have done with 3, but got away with 2, i dont want to feel 80% happy i want to feel 100% happy with the look :-(
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08-11-09, 06:33 PM

I use Creative enamels and have never found the need for more than 2 coats (apart from sometimes with Voodoo, as Sarah said) and don't have drying issues either!?!

Are you rolling the bottle between your palms prior to application?
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