French Polish Chipping .... why?

Rose143 · **French Polish Chipping .... why? -** 10-11-05, 01:37 PM

Hi Peeps,

I just had a my new lady from yesterday phone me this morning to tell me the french polish I did for her yesterday afternoon started to chip on three nails!

I am really pi**ed off because I spent most of my day there yesterday (doing a luxury pedicure and lots of waxing) and this sounds horrible, but I really hate going there, she is staying with my client and my client's house smells of smoke something terrible, I feel I can't breath when I'm working there, now I've got to go back there tomorrow to repaint these three friggin nails.

How can polish chip in 1 night? She said it is probably from the ridges in her nails but I buffed all her ridges away and her nails looked so nice. I also used white OPI polish instead of Creampuff from CND as it's out of stock at the moment (and this is why ladies I am so Creative obsessed becasue this doesn't normally happen) I am not running OPI down, please don't get me wrong but is it me or the polish or my client?

Please help!! I sealed the white polish with the base coat on top before doing the pink so how can this still happen? Sorry for the moan!

xxxx

Tilly Ann · 10-11-05, 01:40 PM

Sounds strange!!
Does she smoke hun? Was she smoking during the treatment? Maybe oil from the ciggarettes was still on the nail plate and has caused the polish not to 'stick' properly and that might be why it's chipped!

Rose143 · 10-11-05, 02:05 PM

Hi Tilly Ann,

This lady, (my client's friend with the french paint) does not smoke, my client does.

My procedure was as follows:

Scrubfreshed nails to remove excess oil
Applied one coat of Stickey base coat
Applied one thin coat of OPI white
Applied second thin coat of OPI white
Applied second coat of Stickey base coat to seal the white nicely
Applied one thin coat of Negligee
Finished with two top coats of Out the door top coat.

Am I maybe appying too much polish?

xxxx

Tilly Ann · 10-11-05, 02:25 PM

Your procedure sounds ok!
Maybe she just has a really greasy nail plate? Or if there is alot of smoke in the air as you said before then I think that might be the problem!
it is a bit of a strange one! Maybe they weren;t completely dry though and she started doing cleaning or something maybe?!

Rose143 · 10-11-05, 02:35 PM

Oh well ..... I just don't get it! I did ask her if she washed any dishes without gloves or anything and she said no, dishes don't get washed in their house

and trust me, I can believe that one!!

Thanks anyway hun

xxxx

Buggy · 10-11-05, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Rose143

Oh well ..... I just don't get it! I did ask her if she washed any dishes without gloves or anything and she said no, dishes don't get washed in their house

and trust me, I can believe that one!!

Thanks anyway hun

xxxx

At least you can do a french polish hun, i'm really cr*p at them.

Rose143 · 10-11-05, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Toni Talons

At least you can do a french polish hun, i'm really cr*p at them.

PMSL!!!!

Bless your heart hun, it came with sheer determination after those blasted french manicure guides used to mess up my beautiful work

xxxx

Urban Geek · 10-11-05, 07:34 PM

Perhaps you had too many layers of polish. I would suggest prepping as you would for enhancements. It is said that if you do that, there is no need for base coat and I would finish off with one top coat. Also, if you are doing to coats of white, ensure that they are very thin coats and that the first coat is absolutely dry before applying the second coat.

I used to do 2 thin white coats but it was taking me forever, especially if I had to tidy up afterwards. Try floating one nice coat of white on the tip, not too thick but a good coverage, followed by your pink of choice and one top coat. I do that now and it has been so much better and quicker.

Good luck and stay patient!

Rose143 · 10-11-05, 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urban Geek

Perhaps you had too many layers of polish. I would suggest prepping as you would for enhancements. It is said that if you do that, there is no need for base coat and I would finish off with one top coat. Also, if you are doing to coats of white, ensure that they are very thin coats and that the first coat is absolutely dry before applying the second coat.

I used to do 2 thin white coats but it was taking me forever, especially if I had to tidy up afterwards. Try floating one nice coat of white on the tip, not too thick but a good coverage, followed by your pink of choice and one top coat. I do that now and it has been so much better and quicker.

Good luck and stay patient!

Thank you my love for that sound advice

, I will try it out tomorrow when I re-paint them.

I do prep like I would for enhancements but maybe I am using too much polish. I use Stickey, makes my french polish lasts beautifully.

Oh well, we'll see!

xxxx

fiona wallace · 10-11-05, 07:56 PM

Rose, our techs never use Out the Door over french, for some reason it gives us probs with Some clients...it is fine over normal enamel but seems to CRACK and sometimes CHIP over white...we moved to Super Shiney which we already used most of the time anyway, but now ALWAYS over white and we eradicated these probs, good luck!

Rose143 · 11-11-05, 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fiona wallace

Rose, our techs never use Out the Door over french, for some reason it gives us probs with Some clients...it is fine over normal enamel but seems to CRACK and sometimes CHIP over white...we moved to Super Shiney which we already used most of the time anyway, but now ALWAYS over white and we eradicated these probs, good luck!

Thank you for that advice Fiona, I didn't get a chance to reply earlier

xxxx

Rose143 · 11-11-05, 04:53 PM

Just to update you peeps on what happened with this polish.

I went there today to find that only the OPI white had chipped at the ends, it was a neat line along my smile line as well, which means that for some strange reason, the Negligee stayed on beautifully, no pealing, no chipping nothing!!!

I think it might have been a bad batch of white or something!!!

xxxx

scattyfox · 11-11-05, 04:55 PM

or soemone drumming her fingers on the table top maybe?

Rose143 · 11-11-05, 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scattyfox

or soemone drumming her fingers on the table top maybe?

Mmmmmm makes you wonder doesn't it, it's the first time she's ever had a french paint too!

xxxx

Rose143 Very Proud Creative Geek Posts: 1,944 Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Crawley, West Sussex	French Polish Chipping .... why? - 10-11-05, 01:37 PM Hi Peeps, I just had a my new lady from yesterday phone me this morning to tell me the french polish I did for her yesterday afternoon started to chip on three nails! I am really pi**ed off because I spent most of my day there yesterday (doing a luxury pedicure and lots of waxing) and this sounds horrible, but I really hate going there, she is staying with my client and my client's house smells of smoke something terrible, I feel I can't breath when I'm working there, now I've got to go back there tomorrow to repaint these three friggin nails. How can polish chip in 1 night? She said it is probably from the ridges in her nails but I buffed all her ridges away and her nails looked so nice. I also used white OPI polish instead of Creampuff from CND as it's out of stock at the moment (and this is why ladies I am so Creative obsessed becasue this doesn't normally happen) I am not running OPI down, please don't get me wrong but is it me or the polish or my client? Please help!! I sealed the white polish with the base coat on top before doing the pink so how can this still happen? Sorry for the moan! xxxx

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Tilly Ann Sweetie Geekie Posts: 1,789 Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Huddersfield	10-11-05, 01:40 PM Sounds strange!! Does she smoke hun? Was she smoking during the treatment? Maybe oil from the ciggarettes was still on the nail plate and has caused the polish not to 'stick' properly and that might be why it's chipped!

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Rose143 Very Proud Creative Geek Posts: 1,944 Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Crawley, West Sussex	10-11-05, 02:05 PM Hi Tilly Ann, This lady, (my client's friend with the french paint) does not smoke, my client does. My procedure was as follows: Scrubfreshed nails to remove excess oil Applied one coat of Stickey base coat Applied one thin coat of OPI white Applied second thin coat of OPI white Applied second coat of Stickey base coat to seal the white nicely Applied one thin coat of Negligee Finished with two top coats of Out the door top coat. Am I maybe appying too much polish? xxxx

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Tilly Ann Sweetie Geekie Posts: 1,789 Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Huddersfield	10-11-05, 02:25 PM Your procedure sounds ok! Maybe she just has a really greasy nail plate? Or if there is alot of smoke in the air as you said before then I think that might be the problem! it is a bit of a strange one! Maybe they weren;t completely dry though and she started doing cleaning or something maybe?!

Nail & Beauty professional

Rose143 Very Proud Creative Geek Posts: 1,944 Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Crawley, West Sussex	10-11-05, 02:35 PM Oh well ..... I just don't get it! I did ask her if she washed any dishes without gloves or anything and she said no, dishes don't get washed in their house and trust me, I can believe that one!! Thanks anyway hun xxxx

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Urban Geek Creative Master Posts: 6,816 Join Date: May 2004 Location: UK	10-11-05, 07:34 PM Perhaps you had too many layers of polish. I would suggest prepping as you would for enhancements. It is said that if you do that, there is no need for base coat and I would finish off with one top coat. Also, if you are doing to coats of white, ensure that they are very thin coats and that the first coat is absolutely dry before applying the second coat. I used to do 2 thin white coats but it was taking me forever, especially if I had to tidy up afterwards. Try floating one nice coat of white on the tip, not too thick but a good coverage, followed by your pink of choice and one top coat. I do that now and it has been so much better and quicker. Good luck and stay patient!

Nail & Beauty professional

fiona wallace Freaky geeky Posts: 1,108 Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Scotland	10-11-05, 07:56 PM Rose, our techs never use Out the Door over french, for some reason it gives us probs with Some clients...it is fine over normal enamel but seems to CRACK and sometimes CHIP over white...we moved to Super Shiney which we already used most of the time anyway, but now ALWAYS over white and we eradicated these probs, good luck!

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Rose143 Very Proud Creative Geek Posts: 1,944 Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Crawley, West Sussex	11-11-05, 04:53 PM Just to update you peeps on what happened with this polish. I went there today to find that only the OPI white had chipped at the ends, it was a neat line along my smile line as well, which means that for some strange reason, the Negligee stayed on beautifully, no pealing, no chipping nothing!!! I think it might have been a bad batch of white or something!!! xxxx

Nail professional

scattyfox Grand Geek Posts: 5,170 Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Rayleigh, Essex	11-11-05, 04:55 PM or soemone drumming her fingers on the table top maybe?

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