I have to agree its not right but they are not ''stupid''
When I was working as a hairstylist...there were 6 nail techs...only one had a license the location of this salon was in a mall. I am taking my nail course in October this year.However, the nail techs at that salon have asked me ''why are you taking the course? Your doing so well for a beginner''

The only person on that premises who is able to obtain legal insurance is the one with the certificate of training.

It might be ok in their eyes for someone to be doing well for a beginner, but I dare them to be questioned about nail diseases, nail anatomy etc etc etc, they wouldn't know their arse from their elbow, and that's what puts trained professionals head and shoulders above the untrained who think they know better.

teetsly i think thats a really good input i hadnt thought about it like that xx

Really depends on how long and how much information from other sources have been absorbed.

Training these days is very important, but for some people that have been around forever (who do know there ass from an elbow, and could probably nail some qualified techs butts to the wall). Insurance is very important (and many companies won't insure you if you dont have that bit of paper).

So go the training route, someone could sue you for negligence and make your life a misery. It's kinda like having a drivers license, it provides you with proof of your ability.

There are some (but very few) that have made it without training, but that was a long time ago in a land far far away, in this day and age there aint many fairy tales left.

i vote stupid BUT i have been in the hair beauty and nails buisness for years and years and although i think every one should train to learn the chemical and structure and contra indications of what ever your working on i have knowned the highest trained people that are c..p at what they do, i think there are alot of people that are just plain natrually (sp) talented at what they do.

I did a 12 week course to learn L&P through TAFE in 2002 but I didn't feel confident enough to work on 'clients' when I finished (I did my own nails for a few years before doing the course though with a salon home kit - only stopped doing my own nails a couple of years ago - can't have them doing massage).

We did anatomy, diseases etc during the 12 weeks but I think the problem was more me than the course - makes me wonder what happened with the rest of the class which was probably about 20 people. I have been considering doing a gel course now instead.

What makes this thread even more interesting is the threads/questions asked by those in training that are obviously not getting enough training/advice, yet will still get that bit of paper at the end of their course and be happy they scraped through, although left wanting/needing much more.

Sure, they will be technically qualified, will go out in the workforce and do crappy nails and will be a shining example of what qualifications in our industry means.

You have seen the questions and imagined the scenarios, but these peeps represent our industry as a whole (as a refection on you and me) ........ no wonder we have trouble gaining respect, when some training schools are so full of tripe.

Yep, to be quite honest, I think some are even faking the fact they are in training .... and we give out advice quite freely making them into better techs ....... this is great if they are indeed training, but it aint that fabulous if they are faking it. I often wonder when the questions and problems are so damn basic ..... DO YOU WONDER TOO?

Frequently

noooooooooo waaaaaaaaaaaaay??!!

people come on here and fake that they are training? omg!!

Yep, regularly!

god help em if they mess up because surely they cant be insured ?

I am reading all your threads with interest. I live in Australia in a remote (some would say desolate) region. We have one trained tech in our area who charges an arm and a leg for her services. She does a crappy job. I have tried to get into training but there is nothing available in this area. I can fly to the other side of the country (6 hours) which I plan to do later in the year and do a 14 day course. (I am trying to save and no I dont believe for a minute that 14 days will even scratch the surface of what I need to know) The only course within a bull's roar of here is for young hotties who have gained employment in a salon. They do on the job training I work full time in my original profession to support my family and because I am not in my 20's and 'hot as' I would not get work in a salon here. (Imagine the ad: 'come to my salon get a 40 something y.o, past her best before date, greying, almost grandmother to do your nails' I don't think so. hehe) I have bought and completed almost every correspondence training program available. I do nails on my friends but do not charge I only buy the best products from suppliers not ebay. I soak up everything I read and see on here like a sponge. I had never really thought about the fact that I am taking advantage of all the hard slog and coin you guys have put in but you know, you are right I'm sorry that I am parasite, I only do it to improve myself because I so admire what you people can achieve and I would be happy if one day I was even half as good as any of you.
Please, please let me stay on your forum
Cheers

I'm back at college at the mo learning nail art - there are some girls on the course who have spent about £2 (or whateva) on getting all there stuff off Ebay (which is actually pants!) and have been bragging that they've been doing nail art for donkeys years and think they are the dogs you-know-wats... they are only on the course to prove to themselves that are as good as they think they are already. They are not and never will be true pofessionals. It's a no brainer, training is essential. I wonder if the clients are aware that they may be being treated by someone without qualifications?

I just stupidly hit 'SMART' for the Training thread, I am so sorry, that was totally wrong of me, of course training is way important, stupid stupid me. What would have been the point in the last 2 years at college!!!!

I agree!! Lots of sympathy for you guys - it winds me up when people try to advise without the proper training. Why do suppliers sell to people who don't have a qualification cert/ training card? They are the ones disrespecting our trade...