I love Tammy Taylors polymer, but hate their monomer? Am I alone in this?

kitkat68

I have been using Tammy Taylors polymer with EZFlow's monomer. I know that you shouldn't mix brands but it seems to work for me. Anyone else do this? And what are your results?

sj1973 · 30-12-07, 08:44 PM

nope hun....i never mix products....i use nsi liquid and nsi powder...both nsi attration i may add!!!!!....why do you hate tammy taylor monomer???

kitkat68 · 30-12-07, 08:46 PM

It seems stickey and doesn't want to adhere to the nail. I am also leary of purchasing monomer throught the mail (As you have to with Tammy's products, you have no choice). If it is left in the delivery truck in hot or cold weather it can damage the monomer and ruin my clients nails!

handmaiden · 30-12-07, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by kitkat68

I have been using Tammy Taylors polymer with EZFlow's monomer. I know that you shouldn't mix brands but it seems to work for me. Anyone else do this? And what are your results?

maybe instead of mixing brands , which is a big no no , you could try and find out why you are not liking the tt monomer?? maybe you just need to tweak your mix ratio?? xx

sj1973 · 30-12-07, 08:50 PM

so how do you get ezflow momomer hun??????.....why not get the ezflow powder if you like liquid????....xx

HeatherDavis · 30-12-07, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by kitkat68

It seems stickey and doesn't want to adhere to the nail. I am also leary of purchasing monomer throught the mail (As you have to with Tammy's products, you have no choice). If it is left in the delivery truck in hot or cold weather it can damage the monomer and ruin my clients nails!

I want you to know I mean NO disrespect, or want to stir pots, but this comment worries me.

Monomer does NOT ruin nails. Product does NOT ruin nails.

Over-filing and improper removal of nails ruins nails.

gembos · 30-12-07, 10:04 PM

i hate tammy taylor anythig sorry if i offend but i belive it is a cheap and crap make, and i spose would be great for practice, but i belive some products can be mixed carfully and if you really know your stuff. but i think you should deffinatly invest in a fab product with great results. i use ibd and creative and love it.

handmaiden · 30-12-07, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by gembos

i hate tammy taylor anythig sorry if i offend but i belive it is a cheap and crap make, and i spose would be great for practice, but i belive some products can be mixed carfully and if you really know your stuff. but i think you should deffinatly invest in a fab product with great results. i use ibd and creative and love it.

if you are working on the general public you need to consider whether your insurance would be void as you have not followed manufacturerts instructions , if anyone were to sue you xx

adelekeegan1 · 30-12-07, 10:26 PM

Oh dear, please lets not slag off products

kitkat68 · 30-12-07, 10:32 PM

Do you mix IBD and creative? I mean do you use Creative Polymer with IBD monomer etc? What don't you like about Tammy Taylor? I am not offended in the least, I just like to hear people's opinions, they are very important to me

Bagpuss · 30-12-07, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by gembos

i hate tammy taylor anythig sorry if i offend but i belive it is a cheap and crap make, and i spose would be great for practice, but i belive some products can be mixed carfully and if you really know your stuff. but i think you should deffinatly invest in a fab product with great results. i use ibd and creative and love it.

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Originally Posted by adelekeegan1

Oh dear, please lets not slag off products

Adele is right...this isn't the place to be slagging off another brand....lets keep it constructive. Thank you x

HeatherDavis · 30-12-07, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by gembos

i hate tammy taylor anythig sorry if i offend but i belive it is a cheap and crap make, and i spose would be great for practice, but i belive some products can be mixed carfully and if you really know your stuff. but i think you should deffinatly invest in a fab product with great results. i use ibd and creative and love it.

It is much more useful to say I LIKE THIS and WHY I LIKE IT, then to say WHAT YOU HATE.

Lets not get into yet another *product* VS *product* war. They are exhausting.

Keep it constructive PLEASE...

Now back to the topic at hand- Please be aware that each product line is DESIGNED to go TOGETHER. IE: Creative Retention+ is DESIGNED to be used with their PERFECT POWDERS. And so on and so forth. You will not get the best results mixing products up in this manner, your best bet is to get to an educator for the product you wish to use, and learn their technique to use it.

angel fingers · 30-12-07, 10:45 PM

i so agree about correct tecnique.
i have trained to use tt and the mix ratio is quite a bit wetter than most products i've used and set time pretty quick.

i've never had any problems with it and the quality and choice of product is very good in my opinion.

Kelpie · 31-12-07, 05:14 AM

I have to giggle. I would love to see a suit of that nature stand up in Court.

Monomer and polymer form a system, irrespective of which company has their name on them. A lot of what is manufactured and doled out to companies actually hails from the same source.

*gasp* I know! So cloak and dagger, isn't it?

And as another poster has pointed out, it's not the product that ruins nails, it's the application and preparation.

So yes, it's not recommended to mix products and I appreciate that but let's be real here: the fact is that many, many people do and do so successfully. It's not a crime.

KitKat, when I found myself out of monomer one day, I mixed my polymer with stores of another monomer I had left over and with a slight bit of tweaking, got a good result. Sounds as though your ratio needs tweaking as another poster has mentioned to you. And I second the anti-slagging stance. I am not a fan of some products but I never fail to learn something from someone else who looks at them with different eyes.

ValencianNails · 31-12-07, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Kelpie

A lot of what is manufactured and doled out to companies actually hails from the same source.

So yes, it's not recommended to mix products and I appreciate that but let's be real here: the fact is that many, many people do and do so successfully. It's not a crime.

At the end of the day these products are scientifically tested, they're chemically balanced to work together and we're not scientists so we shouldn't be messing about with pretending that we are and then using our 'experiments' on our clients.

Sam (The Geek) said the following about mixing brands on another thread... Mixing it up..

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Originally Posted by The Geek

It is VERY dangerous to intermix monomer and polymer systems. Especially when you are mixing odourless and non-odourless systems. It may SEEM fine on the outside, but you are putting your client at serious overexposure risks that may not manifest themselves for months after.

You could also be found legally negligent in doing so (which means a client could very easily sue you if they develop a reaction).

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Originally Posted by The Geek

What I am saying is that all powders contain various ingredients and levels of ingredients. One very important ingredient with most powders is BPO (yup! Benzoyl Peroxide). BPO is one ingresient that is responsible for controlling the curing of your monomer. Too little means a slower cure time (in some instances a nail that never fully cures!). Too much and you will 'shock cure' the enhancement. This is why mix ratio is an important part of working with your L&P system. The wetter of a mix you use, the less BPO. The drier of a mix you use, the more BPO. This can radically affect the performance (and more importantly) the safety of the application.

When you start intermixing systems, you start intermixing amounts and levels of BPO (as well as other ingredients) so you really don't have a clue of the ratio you should be working at. Each monomer is specifically designed to work with a specific polymer - there are no exceptions. Most of the companies that say their polymer is 'universal' are the same companies that do not have an R&D facility and to me seem more interested in making a quick sale then investigating the reality of the situation. A good example is Moxie liquid - you shouldn't use original SolarNail powders with it, only use Ultra or Perfect Color powders. If powders were universal, why the silly restriction? Because CND have an R&D lab that designs their products and they realise that you can not make a powder that works with all liquids!

I have said it 1,000 times before: If you want the most optimum performance and you want to provide the safest service possible, NEVER intermix systems.

If you like Brand A liquid, use their powder. If you like Brand B powder, use their liquid!!!

The EXACT same thing goes for UV lights (think of the UV light as being the 'BPO' part of your gel application. Too little UV exposure is like working too wet, too much UV exposure is like working too dry).

In my eyes, safety and security for my clients are NEVER negotiable.