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09-01-08, 08:49 PM

You should definitely get in touch. Maybe call round in person when its obvious there's someone home. This is you livelyhood and your rep's at stake. Imagine if she started to spread her story!

She has no right to do this. When I get a new client (i'm mobile), i explain the costs to her of my work - in a friendly way - and if they say they haven't a way to pay I arrange another appointment. You're a business - not a charity.

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09-01-08, 09:34 PM

Hi Hun,
What a cheeky mare. Gets you worried when a new client comes in, you will be wondering if they will pull the same stunt, I know it seems a bit harsh on everyone else, but maybe you should put a little sign on you desk asking clients to pay up front, you can tell them it is to protect polish that may not be properly dry, or to help them when their new nails are on, most can't even open their bags with a new set on, or get into jeans pockets etc. Good luck, but don't give up. lol x
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09-01-08, 09:34 PM

I think everyone is right - dont let her get away with it - what a flippin cheek !

Also agree with Bettyboo - does sound a bit like she is a fibber !

One thing that stood out a bit for me was the part where you enquired if there was a problem and was she happy with what you had done.......I would be careful here as it could give her a clue that if she were to claim to be dissatisfied and complain she might get away without paying you or that you were open to the suggestion that the nails werent up to scratch. She may well have done the same to the last tech she attended whose nails she wasnt happy with !

You did the work and she should pay you simple as.

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09-01-08, 09:40 PM

Im not a nail geek. But GOSH! thats awful how could someone do such a thing, they dont actualy realise we use our stuff & our time to treat these people and she has the cheek not to pay. If i was you sweetie id keep on and on and on till she gives u the money knock on her door and confront her because thats plain out of order hope u get ur money xx
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09-01-08, 09:49 PM

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I think everyone is right - dont let her get away with it - what a flippin cheek !

Also agree with Bettyboo - does sound a bit like she is a fibber !

One thing that stood out a bit for me was the part where you enquired if there was a problem and was she happy with what you had done.......I would be careful here as it could give her a clue that if she were to claim to be dissatisfied and complain she might get away without paying you or that you were open to the suggestion that the nails werent up to scratch. She may well have done the same to the last tech she attended whose nails she wasnt happy with !

You did the work and she should pay you simple as.

Good luck.
good point here...dont ask if there was anything wrong with the nails ...she might say ...yeah so i am not paying you....she is obviously avoiding you ...so do caller id like noodle said and send her a letter recorded like someone else suggested ..let us know how it goes xxxx
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09-01-08, 09:51 PM

I would deffo go down the debt collection route, heck, I'd even make one up out of thin air on headed paper....... then see if the money appears!

In all seriousness, this is as good as theft. Contact your local police station and see what they say. Sometimes, under certain circumstances you can report things like this.

Some people make my blood boil!
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09-01-08, 10:17 PM

Have you checked other salons near you, coz she sounds like she's doing her rounds and getting a free set each time, leaving tones of nail techs out of pocket!! id phone a few nail/beauty salons up if i was you, and ask if this has happened to them, you might be surprised... and dont forget she'l have to go somwhere in a few weeks for her infill and she sound like she's avoiding you, so why not nail all her option doors shut before she gets there!! and that'l stop her in her tracks, and at the end of the day, its safty in numbers if it HAS happened to other salons.
Failing all that, id deffo send her a letter on headed note paper and make it official. She cant get away with this, and it'l fester away at you for months if she does, and it'l take the enjoyment out of what we do.
Good luck, and keep us posted, I for one is dying to know how this one ends!
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09-01-08, 10:42 PM

Spending more money and time trying to get your money is not what you should have to do. Recorded letters etc. You put in the time,effort and products therefore it is business as usual! If her home is near to you call on her again with a writen statement of how much £ and whoever answers the door request that they settle with you and they claim from her! As you are owed and do not want to keep coming back to ask for it. It simply is not ethical or business like. Do you have a big guy you can take with you as the 'heavy mob' to back you up. I suggest that having back up of any type is a good thing it makes a statement of support and strength. I hope you get your hard earned money! Best wishes, Debbie X
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09-01-08, 11:18 PM

BBC - h2g2 - How to Complain if Someone Owes You Money - A850051

Collecting debts owed to you : Directgov - Money, tax and benefits

Here are two links that might help you in getting the money you are owed.

The second link is from the government website. Hth's.
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09-01-08, 11:20 PM

I still say go round there and just ask her for the money before you start jumping the gun and paying out money tbh.
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09-01-08, 11:25 PM

thats so out of order babes...
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10-01-08, 12:00 AM

Ok I have asked for advice on your behalf ( hope you dont mind ) on an advice and a Question and answer website.
i posted it in business and in civil law.

Here is a reply i got from the post in business.

Firstly send another letter by registered post asking for payment within 14 days.

Keep a copy and attach the post office receipt.

If no reply you could go down the legal route and send a letter of intent, also by registered post. This should state that if payment is not received within 28 days then a summons will be raised in the Small Claims' Court.

Or you could use an old trick - a quick note on a postcard - 'Just a reminder that you owe.... £x' and put the number of the house next door on by accident.

Sadly it is a fact that all businesses must allow for a per centage of loss through non-paying customers.


I will let you know if i get any other advice. x
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10-01-08, 03:28 AM

Tons of excellent ideas.
I would,
1. call
2. write
3. if nothing let her go

I had a woman that I provided service for almost 3 years.
Her last visit's ticket was almost $100. Her check bounced (my daughters were still at home, I needed the money.)
Fast forward before Christmas 2007, She's baccccccck.
I explained I would get her in...
Everytime she called, until she finally asked if I was mad.
I told her no way, I wasn't mad just like her check was paid 3 years ago.
She said she would do whatever it took to make it right, I told her that this was business and 3 years was a bit too long, to get a clue and take her rubber checks elsewhere.
I would not have done that if I wasn't over booked as it is, or if my children were still living at home.
The way I look at it is, I dont need the money now, I needed it when I had children to take care of.
I still havent seen the money, but what can she say, I didn't take her back as a client because she owed me not just the bounced check but fees and interest?
Karma that all I have to say about that.
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10-01-08, 12:36 PM

Well now, I have sat and read all this and digested it and thought carefully about how I would deal with it.

There's no getting away from the fact that she has a bloo.y cheek. Whatever the outcome, blacklist her and NEVER do her a service again.

I would send a letter, as already suggested, giving 7 days to pay or else place the matter into legal hands. (Doesn't matter if you actually do that or not, the threat of it may work anyway). I don't know what it would cost you to have a solicitor send a letter, but I'm guessing it wouldn't be worthwhile.

But as awful as what she has done is, I wouldn't put my blood pressure up by stressing over it. You can spend a LOT of time festering away over something like this and it does no good really. It will always bug you, for sure. It would bug me too. But, you know, negative emotions and negative energy are so, so draining and it would be much more positive to use the experience to shape how you run your business from now on. Simply use it as a learning experience and draw up some guidelines. ie. NEVER work with the understanding that you will be paid later. (If it's a long standing trusty client who simply hasn't had time to go to the bank, you might decide to waive your rules!)

See what you can take from the experience in a positive way. Do what you can to retrieve your money (I hope you get it). When I was first doing nails, I was "bullied" into giving refunds on a couple of occasions, which were definitely NOT due . . . but I gave in due to lack of experience and a feeling that the customer must always be right. I know better know, so although I lost money at the time, I probably gained something else from it.

Anyway, you ARE due the money, and I hope you get it sorted without too much hassle.
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10-01-08, 01:25 PM

Thank you all for your positive replies, I have put a polite reminder letter through her door this morning again. I have heard since she has pulled this off with another salon.

I will keep you posted and let you know the outcome. In my years of working in this business I have never come across a client who came without money to pay for their treatment. Thanks again for all your kind replies. xx
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