Salon Geek
                   

The Nail Geek Nail professionals discussing all aspects of hand and foot care.


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
(#16)
Old
lotus blossom's Avatar
Grand Geek
I'm feeling Cheeky  
 
lotus blossom is King of the Swingers, the jungle VIPlotus blossom is King of the Swingers, the jungle VIPlotus blossom is King of the Swingers, the jungle VIPlotus blossom is King of the Swingers, the jungle VIPlotus blossom is King of the Swingers, the jungle VIPlotus blossom is King of the Swingers, the jungle VIPlotus blossom is King of the Swingers, the jungle VIPlotus blossom is King of the Swingers, the jungle VIPlotus blossom is King of the Swingers, the jungle VIPlotus blossom is King of the Swingers, the jungle VIPlotus blossom is King of the Swingers, the jungle VIP
Posts: 3,695
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: uk
Hair, Nail, Skin Pro
26-02-08, 07:58 PM

were you using the products in the essential nail home learn course on your friend?

as i think the products supplied are only for the use on the nail trainer hand, i e the adhesive is not recommended for use on people etc
not sure about the gel, but when i did the acrylic course the primer for example in the kit was half strength, due to it only being needed for a plastic nail, and not a real person,

im sure they also say that you should use the products supplied in the kit only on the nail trainer, and AFTER completeing the course can you then purchase products that are suitable for humans
hth
Reply With Quote
(#17)
Old
Classy Claws's Avatar
Very geeky
I'm feeling Cheeky I am jamming out to Pretty much anything but metal head music, get enough of that from the damn pot smoking neighbours  
 
Classy Claws likes your GuatamalanessClassy Claws likes your GuatamalanessClassy Claws likes your Guatamalaness
Posts: 548
Join Date: May 2007
Location: South Pole
Nail Pro
26-02-08, 08:17 PM

Hun, just a thought, but you said your doing a home course... is there any chance you can take a course where you go to a class and your SHOWN how to do things? I mean its all good and well trying to work it out via the net, and by watching traning DVDs etc.. but in all honesty it really doesnt click until you have someone in front of you explaining every step in detail and showing you exactly what you should and should not be doing.... no offence intended but i honestly think if you really Love what your doing (being in the nails industry) if you can, if its avalible (I know its not everywhere) then try and find a course
Reply With Quote
(#18)
Old
geeg's Avatar
Judge Gigi-Honorary Geek
I'm feeling Happy I am in love with My Family & Friends I am jamming out to I love all kinds of Music My favorite films are Ones that touch the Heart  
 
geeg is King of the Swingers, the jungle VIPgeeg is King of the Swingers, the jungle VIPgeeg is King of the Swingers, the jungle VIPgeeg is King of the Swingers, the jungle VIPgeeg is King of the Swingers, the jungle VIPgeeg is King of the Swingers, the jungle VIPgeeg is King of the Swingers, the jungle VIPgeeg is King of the Swingers, the jungle VIPgeeg is King of the Swingers, the jungle VIPgeeg is King of the Swingers, the jungle VIPgeeg is King of the Swingers, the jungle VIP
Posts: 15,388
Blog Entries: 21
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Benissa, Costa Blanca, Spain
Nail Pro
26-02-08, 08:27 PM

Read this chick. It is an excerpt from my book on enhancement techniques ... I'm sure it should help you and it describes how to 'scrub' that first layer of gel onto the plate.

'nailclass' by Gigi Rouse - available from Mundo Products
Reply With Quote
(#19)
Old
mum's Avatar
mum Offline
Freaky geeky
I'm feeling Duh  
 
mum wishes s/he could speak whalemum wishes s/he could speak whalemum wishes s/he could speak whalemum wishes s/he could speak whalemum wishes s/he could speak whalemum wishes s/he could speak whalemum wishes s/he could speak whalemum wishes s/he could speak whalemum wishes s/he could speak whale
Posts: 1,079
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Hertford and London
Nail Pro
26-02-08, 09:26 PM

The advice you've been given is really good.

Unfortunately, this is one of the problems of distance learning of a practical skill and on a plastic hand. If you had applied these in a class with a trainer (as every learner should) you would have had help the whole way through. Nail biters have a different and very specific application method.

Is it true, as another post on this thread said, that products are different when you learn on a plastic hand and you progress to 'real' products when you qualify?
Reply With Quote
(#20)
Old
magsham's Avatar
Real geeky
I'm feeling twisted I am in love with life I am jamming out to anything 80's/90's and some up to date My favorite films are green mile/Beaches/Steel Magnolias - anything weepie!!  Or funny  
 
magsham is a lumberjack and he's okay!magsham is a lumberjack and he's okay!
Posts: 395
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Rochester
Nail, Skin Pro
26-02-08, 09:47 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by lotus blossom View Post
were you using the products in the essential nail home learn course on your friend?

as i think the products supplied are only for the use on the nail trainer hand, i e the adhesive is not recommended for use on people etc
not sure about the gel, but when i did the acrylic course the primer for example in the kit was half strength, due to it only being needed for a plastic nail, and not a real person,

im sure they also say that you should use the products supplied in the kit only on the nail trainer, and AFTER completeing the course can you then purchase products that are suitable for humans
hth

The products that Essential are selling are the Dream range that Jacqui Jefford's promoting but as quite rightly said the glue, primer and gel prep (all Essential Nails branded) are for the nail trainer only.
Reply With Quote
(#21)
Old
mum's Avatar
mum Offline
Freaky geeky
I'm feeling Duh  
 
mum wishes s/he could speak whalemum wishes s/he could speak whalemum wishes s/he could speak whalemum wishes s/he could speak whalemum wishes s/he could speak whalemum wishes s/he could speak whalemum wishes s/he could speak whalemum wishes s/he could speak whalemum wishes s/he could speak whale
Posts: 1,079
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Hertford and London
Nail Pro
26-02-08, 09:59 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by magsham View Post
The products that Essential are selling are the Dream range that Jacqui Jefford's promoting but as quite rightly said the glue, primer and gel prep (all Essential Nails branded) are for the nail trainer only.


Good grief! I've never agreed with all learning done on a plastic hand (practice as part of a 'real' training course, yes, absolutely). But this is the first time I realised that the products are different too!

So, why don't hairdressers learn colouring on a plastic head with nylon hair using different colouring products than used in a salon; why don't beauty therapists learn waxing on a plastic leg with something that isn't wax; why don't dentists learn how to fill teeth on a plastic jaw with plastic teeth and 'fillings' that are different from those used on real teeth?
Reply With Quote
(#22)
Old
geeg's Avatar
Judge Gigi-Honorary Geek
I'm feeling Happy I am in love with My Family & Friends I am jamming out to I love all kinds of Music My favorite films are Ones that touch the Heart  
 
geeg is King of the Swingers, the jungle VIPgeeg is King of the Swingers, the jungle VIPgeeg is King of the Swingers, the jungle VIPgeeg is King of the Swingers, the jungle VIPgeeg is King of the Swingers, the jungle VIPgeeg is King of the Swingers, the jungle VIPgeeg is King of the Swingers, the jungle VIPgeeg is King of the Swingers, the jungle VIPgeeg is King of the Swingers, the jungle VIPgeeg is King of the Swingers, the jungle VIPgeeg is King of the Swingers, the jungle VIP
Posts: 15,388
Blog Entries: 21
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Benissa, Costa Blanca, Spain
Nail Pro
26-02-08, 10:03 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by mum View Post
Good grief! I've never agreed with all learning done on a plastic hand (practice as part of a 'real' training course, yes, absolutely). But this is the first time I realised that the products are different too!

So, why don't hairdressers learn colouring on a plastic head with nylon hair using different colouring products than used in a salon; why don't beauty therapists learn waxing on a plastic leg with something that isn't wax; why don't dentists learn how to fill teeth on a plastic jaw with plastic teeth and 'fillings' that are different from those used on real teeth?
Crazy isn't it?
Reply With Quote
(#23)
Old
lotus blossom's Avatar
Grand Geek
I'm feeling Cheeky  
 
lotus blossom is King of the Swingers, the jungle VIPlotus blossom is King of the Swingers, the jungle VIPlotus blossom is King of the Swingers, the jungle VIPlotus blossom is King of the Swingers, the jungle VIPlotus blossom is King of the Swingers, the jungle VIPlotus blossom is King of the Swingers, the jungle VIPlotus blossom is King of the Swingers, the jungle VIPlotus blossom is King of the Swingers, the jungle VIPlotus blossom is King of the Swingers, the jungle VIPlotus blossom is King of the Swingers, the jungle VIPlotus blossom is King of the Swingers, the jungle VIP
Posts: 3,695
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: uk
Hair, Nail, Skin Pro
26-02-08, 10:22 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by mum View Post
Good grief! I've never agreed with all learning done on a plastic hand (practice as part of a 'real' training course, yes, absolutely). But this is the first time I realised that the products are different too!

So, why don't hairdressers learn colouring on a plastic head with nylon hair using different colouring products than used in a salon; why don't beauty therapists learn waxing on a plastic leg with something that isn't wax; why don't dentists learn how to fill teeth on a plastic jaw with plastic teeth and 'fillings' that are different from those used on real teeth?


im learning hair at the moment, and i am using a plastic head, with synthethic hair and colouring it with products that arent used in a salon,
when my tutor thinks im competant in certain areas im allowed to progress to a live one!!!
Reply With Quote
(#24)
Old
lissa's Avatar
Real geeky
I'm feeling Fantastic I am in love with gary and my kids I am jamming out to every kind depends on my mood ! My favorite films are road house war of the worlds  
 
lissa is wearing their underpants on the outside
Posts: 259
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: canterbury
Hair, Nail, Skin Pro
29-02-08, 10:36 PM

i re did the nails had to file off al the gel as a few were broke off at the tip the other were perfect so i made them shorter and put another thicker coat of gel on them!!
However we went out last night all she did was play pick and put them in her mouth!! So im thinking maybe it wasn't all my fault after all !
the after math she phoned today she has a crack in one of her nails the one she was chewing on all night , im thinking im not doining them again am i right to think that ??
Reply With Quote
(#25)
Old
IllumeGirl's Avatar
Uber geek
I'm feeling Happy I am in love with intense seal I am jamming out to heavy metal My favorite films are aussie rules, lantana, the oyster farmer  
 
IllumeGirl Pity's the Fool that Messes with ThemIllumeGirl Pity's the Fool that Messes with ThemIllumeGirl Pity's the Fool that Messes with ThemIllumeGirl Pity's the Fool that Messes with ThemIllumeGirl Pity's the Fool that Messes with ThemIllumeGirl Pity's the Fool that Messes with Them
Posts: 1,597
Blog Entries: 2
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: australia
Nail Pro
01-03-08, 11:49 AM

If as you said, yours are fine, then i would be inclined to blame her 'said' care of these enhancements.
I mean after all, you witnessed with your own eyes, how this client treated her enhancements, did you not??
I would not recommend home learn, but am totally going by what you have posted.
Reply With Quote
(#26)
Old
Denmark's Avatar
Very geeky
I'm feeling Cheeky I am in love with My 2 sons I am jamming out to Robbie Williams, George Michael  
 
Denmark is carrying over $6 in change
Posts: 465
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Denmark
Nail Pro
01-03-08, 12:10 PM

I also have the Essential home learning course, i then went on a CND L&P course, and my good there is a diffrent, honestly i donīt think that you can learn very much from this courses, you need to see it i realy life, learning from an expert who can guide you through ever single steep of the proces, but that is just my opinion
Reply With Quote
(#27)
Old
min11's Avatar
Master Geek
I'm feeling Unhappy I am in love with CND I am jamming out to Anything very heavy and loud! My favorite films are LOTR's, all three extended versions, My Mother Frank and a lovely film called Jack and Sarah.  
 
min11 is the Son of Jorellemin11 is the Son of Jorellemin11 is the Son of Jorellemin11 is the Son of Jorellemin11 is the Son of Jorellemin11 is the Son of Jorellemin11 is the Son of Jorellemin11 is the Son of Jorellemin11 is the Son of Jorelle
Posts: 1,950
Blog Entries: 35
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Ashbourne, UK
Nail Pro
01-03-08, 12:34 PM

If its the Essential Nails course you are doing I know the primer that came in the courses I had was not to be used on real nails, only the trainer hand as a few Geeks have already said. The kit at the time had that printed on the bottles and in the course litterature. The only bit of those courses I used in the end was the trainer hand.

Last edited by min11; 01-03-08 at 12:35 PM. Reason: Reworded and spelling
Reply With Quote
(#28)
Old
mum's Avatar
mum Offline
Freaky geeky
I'm feeling Duh  
 
mum wishes s/he could speak whalemum wishes s/he could speak whalemum wishes s/he could speak whalemum wishes s/he could speak whalemum wishes s/he could speak whalemum wishes s/he could speak whalemum wishes s/he could speak whalemum wishes s/he could speak whalemum wishes s/he could speak whale
Posts: 1,079
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Hertford and London
Nail Pro
01-03-08, 03:10 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by lotus blossom View Post
im learning hair at the moment, and i am using a plastic head, with synthethic hair and colouring it with products that arent used in a salon,
when my tutor thinks im competant in certain areas im allowed to progress to a live one!!!
Now that's a good progression, especially with hair. Trouble with the topic being discussed here is that there is no progression to 'a live one'!!
Reply With Quote
(#29)
Old
lotus blossom's Avatar
Grand Geek
I'm feeling Cheeky  
 
lotus blossom is King of the Swingers, the jungle VIPlotus blossom is King of the Swingers, the jungle VIPlotus blossom is King of the Swingers, the jungle VIPlotus blossom is King of the Swingers, the jungle VIPlotus blossom is King of the Swingers, the jungle VIPlotus blossom is King of the Swingers, the jungle VIPlotus blossom is King of the Swingers, the jungle VIPlotus blossom is King of the Swingers, the jungle VIPlotus blossom is King of the Swingers, the jungle VIPlotus blossom is King of the Swingers, the jungle VIPlotus blossom is King of the Swingers, the jungle VIP
Posts: 3,695
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: uk
Hair, Nail, Skin Pro
01-03-08, 03:42 PM

i think what im trying to get at here, is that the poster is using products on her nails and clients nails that are only meant for use on the nail trainer hand,

she is then complaining about the products

it clearly states in these kits that they are for the nail trainer only, and does not advise anywhere that you should practice on your own or anyone else during the training or using the products,

it also states that you are not competant until you have submitted your work, and have passed the course, not until then are you meant to go anywhere near a live one!!

once the course has been passed then you are free to gain insurance and do live clients

sorry but this topic riles me!! lol ( can you tell)
Reply With Quote
(#30)
Old
lissa's Avatar
Real geeky
I'm feeling Fantastic I am in love with gary and my kids I am jamming out to every kind depends on my mood ! My favorite films are road house war of the worlds  
 
lissa is wearing their underpants on the outside
Posts: 259
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: canterbury
Hair, Nail, Skin Pro
01-03-08, 10:15 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by lotus blossom View Post
were you using the products in the essential nail home learn course on your friend?

as i think the products supplied are only for the use on the nail trainer hand, i e the adhesive is not recommended for use on people etc
not sure about the gel, but when i did the acrylic course the primer for example in the kit was half strength, due to it only being needed for a plastic nail, and not a real person,

im sure they also say that you should use the products supplied in the kit only on the nail trainer, and AFTER completeing the course can you then purchase products that are suitable for humans
hth
no i used a proper glue for the tips and a new pink gel !!
Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
enhancements fell off, nails fell off

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On





© 1997-2009 Sweet Squared Ltd