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28-08-08, 08:52 PM
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28-08-08, 09:10 PM
You havent mucked up, if you can fix it then you havent!
Dont beat yourself up. As someone said, would the hairdresser have the number? If they havent, well wait for them to come in and just say that for a child that age, 'it is recommended' that she has polish instead of gel overlays??? Say to her that you will make the french mani look exactly like a french gel etc. The Mum might be annoyed - her choice, polish or storm off! |
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28-08-08, 09:21 PM
Dont worry hun, we all make mistakes.
I would give her a french polish with a shiney topcoat, they wont look any different (to her) than a gel overlay AND why would she want her o have gel or acrylic anyway if its just foe an overlay-very unneccessaryin my opinion. Im sure it will go fine, and if it doesnt it will definetly make you stand you ground next time you gt asked. :-) hth xx |
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28-08-08, 09:22 PM
defo agree with you she is to young to have enhancements. she is 9 after all and I expect this sepcial occasion is just a one day thing then what happens? she will start picking as soon as they start to grow out and will ruin her nail beds guaranteed as I used to pick at mine when I was 16 there's no way a 9yr old would be able to resist
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28-08-08, 09:24 PM
aww hun , i can understand how you feel , you were obviously backed into a corner , couldnt you use some uv top coat (uv dry ) on top of the french mani ?? to give the illusion of gels??
(sorry i know its not entirely honest but better than dealing with someone having a paddy in the salon ) |
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29-08-08, 12:05 AM
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I certainly wouldn't do the enhancements, we had the same sort of thing a while back in the Salon with ear piercing. With some young one's the Parents have to give consent for that and this particular Child did not have it therefore we wouldn't do it. The mother rang the Salon and wanted to know why we wouldn't do it, when I explained she said she couldn't be bothered to come out to sign the consent form. With that I said I would put some literature in the post and left it at that. Basically I went to Caflon and gathered some info which really said exactly what I was saying plus a lot of other legal jargon also. We never heard back from the mother, obviously we lost a client but so be it. We didn't and wouldn't do anything wrong under those circumstances ever. Unfortunately in this world there is always some clever b'stard looking to trip you up out there. She may have been one of them, she may have not. Either way with this sort of thing it’s a zero tolerance procedure. Fitz (Steve) |
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29-08-08, 01:10 AM
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I would be really careful about disappointing this little girl tbh....her mother prob wont be too happy...(it is quite upsetting to see your child 'let down' i have to say). Having said that...like most people...I wouldn't put enhancements on a 9 yr old either. I would however...in light of the fact that u have already agreed to do a gel overlay....and to avoid disappointments...I would just do that...perhaps as already suggested just use a gel top coat? I dont see the harm in that myself. Perhaps when u see the mother u could quietly explain to her that you are not prepared to do the full 'works' but as its for a special occasion you will do the overlay (which will still look the same) but on the provision that she is brought back in within say 2 weeks to have the gel removed properly for which she will need to pay for at this appointment..you could then say you will put some sparkly polish on for free after removal or something like that? Dont beat yourself up about what you should or shouldnt have done at the time...it doesnt matter...what matters is what you do now!
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29-08-08, 09:26 AM
Well I definitely would do enhancements on a 9 year old if a parent asked me and I would also book the soak off appointment at the same time and get them to pre pay for the lot of it.
There is no reason on earth why you shouldn't do this with the parent's say so. Are you going to damage her nails??? Do you not believe in what you do and that it will be safe for her? What reason (other than your OWN thoughts on whether it is suitable or not for children to have enhancements) would you have for not doing them? It is not up to us to make moral decisions for others unless we would be doing something to cause harm. I personally think it is too young for MY children, but it is not up to me to make or impose that call on someone else. You didn't do anything wrong at all and I would do it happily. |
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29-08-08, 10:55 AM
Thanks for all your replies ladies.
In relation to not wanting the child to be disappointed when she comes to the salon and is told she cant have her nails done, I'm not so bothered about her having a tantrum as I am about doing the right thing. The only problem here is that I didnt take a number so cant ring to discuss it and avoid disappointment in two weeks (although someone has suggested seeing if the hairdressers took it which is a good point that I hadnt thought of - why I didnt think of it is anyones guess, I really think my brain has taken annual leave!) geeg in response to your comments, I think the reason I am against enhancing children is mainly two-fold. firstly, as you have said, I wouldnt enhance the nails of my own child at that age, and I understand and agree with what you say about not making moral decisions for others. However my secondary (and main) concern is not so much about the application because I am confident in my application and know I wont cause any damage, but it's the damage that a 9 year old will cause after she leaves the salon that worries me. I know that some of our grown up clients leave a lot to be desired in this area, but a nine year old cant hope to properly grasp the importance of safety, never mind after care, and I dont think she is old enough to properly understand the extent of damage she can cause if she picks etc. It can be explained to her of course, but my experience of nine year olds is that it's in one ear and out of the other. My aim is to prevent a situation where mum brings daughter back with greenies and thineed nailbeds because she;s been picking at them, then playing out in the muck, not washing her hands etc, and then mum complains that it's my fault. I think with all the advice given and a bit of thought, I'm going to leave the appointment as it is. when mum brings her to sign the client record card I'm going to have a special extended version one printed just for her, specifically stating that these must be removed at the salon no later than 2 weeks after application, and I'm going to go through a very detailed after care (but before the appointment), and offer a file & polish if they think she will not reasonably be able to keep to the advice given. I do appreciate everything you have said Geeg and can understand the reasons behind it, but I wont be booking anyone so young in for enhancements again. I know it's not my place to make moral decisions for customers, but just like those people who pierce ears and set a minimum age even though you can do it on babies, I dont feel comfortable giving my service to someone so young. thanks ladies, your advice is much appreciated. |
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29-08-08, 11:38 AM
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Pre booking and pre paying for the soak off at the time of the appointment is the key to making sure that no damage occurs from improper removal. If you do not insist on a prepayment for this then they will not return to have it done. Let this determine whether or not they accept the service on that basis. Of course ideally this should have been discussed before the booking was taken but even if you didn't you can make it clear on the day that unless they do this you are not prepared to do the nails. That is up to you. If you don't feel comfortable then you don't feel comfortable although exactly why you don't feel comfortable with parental consent escapes me. By the way, this is the perfect client on which to use PopIts!! |
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