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10-11-08, 08:28 PM

Beautiful art work yeh but surely they cant be good for the natural nails???

Small nailbeds, massive tips?????
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10-11-08, 08:50 PM

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BUT I would never presume the nature of the wearer's personality, or size of their cojones just because they choose to be different. I'm pretty sure that women of all sizes and types have worn them.

I'm also wondering about the definition of 'Lady' here, I thought it pertained to the way a woman acted, not the type of nails she wears. Granted clothes/nails can make a difference but I believe we've all been taught not to judge a book by it's cover.
Let's not loose our sense of humour! I have been having a bit of fun with this so to get too serious would be a mistake.

I believe that (rightly or wrongly) most people in fact DO make assumptions based on how people appear, how they dress, how their hands and nails are groomed, their hair ... in fact based on everything they see.

I am an American born and bred and I can state quite categorically that not one person I know would EVER wear nails that looked like these flare things.

People's nails almost always reflect their personality so I don't think I am presuming too much in making the comments re what these nails tell me about those who choose, I say again, CHOOSE to adopt such a style. Many people wear their nails specifically to make a statement about themselves or to just plain get noticed (which says plenty about the individual as well).

I once attended a symposium in Las Vegas where we invited many many wearers of wild nail art to tell us why they wore it, what it meant to them and why they thought it was worth the money they spent on it and the resounding answer from over 90% was that they wanted to get noticed ... they wore it specifically to get noticed, that they liked the attention that was focused on them because of it. It wasn't a matter of good grooming to them it was pure and simply attention seeking. I learned allot from that.
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10-11-08, 09:14 PM

Sorry.
My opinion is TRAILOR PARK TRASH.....but hey if it sells GO FOR IT!!!
And in 10 years they may come back.....and HAUNT you eh?
Good luck!!!
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10-11-08, 09:14 PM

I personally don't like the shape of these nails either, jmo


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People's nails almost always reflect their personality so I don't think I am presuming too much in making the comments re what these nails tell me about those who choose, I say again, CHOOSE to adopt such a style. Many people wear their nails specifically to make a statement about themselves or to just plain get noticed (which says plenty about the individual as well).

I once attended a symposium in Las Vegas ............the resounding answer from over 90% was that they wanted to get noticed ... they wore it specifically to get noticed, that they liked the attention that was focused on them because of it. It wasn't a matter of good grooming to them it was pure and simply attention seeking. I learned allot from that.
I always wear my nails "loud and proud" , I like the attention they give me (it also helps to promote my business), I am an extrovert and at the moment I am wearing bright red glitter tips in the lipstick shape with the pinkies in the stiletto. If that doesn't get me noticed nothing will However, I wouldn't wear the flare just to get noticed, I believe there are nicer, more attractive ways of wearing your nails than this but as 'they' say, "beauty is in the eye of the beholder" and it wouldn't do for us all to be the same

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10-11-08, 10:03 PM

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Over here in states, we tend to be a bit more 'showy', I guess, and since the pink and white nail has been the thing for the last 20+ years, I'm finding people are ready for something different, less safe and 'ladylike'. The demand for color, glitter, embellishments, and glitter is what's selling here, and in our depressed economy, whatever it takes to get the client to part with their money is what I'm going to do.
Just a small question and its a question for all not just the quoted, I am just using the quote as an example.
We here can, and do, do lots of nails that have colour, glitter, embellishments creating something different without creating 'shovels' to hold all the artwork, why is it that the techs doing 'the shovels' cant?
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10-11-08, 10:17 PM

Well, I think they are laughable!

I do however think the nail art on the 2nd pic is lovely, lovely colours and all.

However, is someone wants to pay me to do these, then I'll do them, but ask them not to say where they had them done ! lol. I'd had to custom blend the nail bed to offer some sort of proportion!
The last pic must of used up a whole pot of powder just on the whites! I sincerely hope the tech charged the right amount for these!
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10-11-08, 11:00 PM

the problem is it goes against EVERYTHING we've drilled into our brains about what is 'pleasing' on the eye

I just couldnt bring myself to do them....i'd rather loose out on the money
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11-11-08, 12:47 AM

Just some food for thought.....Last time I checked, was it not supposed to be all about making the client happy? If that is what your client wants then is it not our job to make sure that we know how to do it in a manor that looks good and that we are not ashamed to have our name attached to them? Is it not our clients that are making sure that we have food on our table, roof over our head, clothes to wear, etc.. It may not be our style and that is fine, we all have our own style/personality. Does that make them any less of a LADY, NO! Who are we to decide if they are a lady or not. I think our focus of what our main goal (our clients needs and wants) are being forgotten because of our close minded ways.

So with that being said lets start this off by saying.....To begin with those nails are a REALLY BAD example of the flared nails. While I am NOT a fan of them at all I have seen some amazing nail tech do them and make them look really good. Those are not good as far as the structure goes.

Check these to out just for example:
Myspace.com - Angela (Nail Tech / Glitter Freak) Photo Albums Angela Glitter Freak,
Her acrylic work in general is just breath taken and the things that girl can do with acrylic are just mind blowing.

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Loving the glitter This is Heatherqt. She does a very classy, well balanced flared.

Will I provide flair nails for my clients should that be what they are looking for, YES! I will do what ever service my client wants as long as it is legal. If that is what it is going to take to make my client happy and continue to allow me the privilege of being their nail tech. Lets face it, having that client is a privilege and they can go to a million other places to get their nails done. It is my chair that they have chosen and my chair I wish for them to stay.
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11-11-08, 01:07 AM

Hey Tammy,

As I was saying on Beautytech, I think some have misinterpreted the 'lady' comment. That aside, I can only comment on the nail in the first link (the other requires a login)...

To me, it isn't flattering and part of my role as a professional nail tech is to flatter and beautify my clients hands. So far I haven't seen a pic that has made me think anything other than the 'flare' is very unflattering. I am still open to be convinced, I just remain unconvinced at this time.

Again, I can only think of drawing from my hairdressing experience. I remember when everyone wanted the 'Jennifer' hair cut (remember from Friends? ). Some could pull it off brilliantly. Some did not have the face shape or hair to pull it off and those clients left me with a choice: Create something that wouldn't look good, or try and use my training to guide them into a style that would accomplish what they wanted while at the same time flatter them. My choice was the latter. It doesn't make those that would cut it anyway bad, it just made their approach to business different. To me, that was a cool thing about todays society, the customer could choose: A business that would do what you wanted regardless or a professional that would listen to what you wanted and find a way to make it work.

Different strokes for different folks!
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11-11-08, 01:11 AM

We here can, and do, do lots of nails that have colour, glitter, embellishments creating something different without creating 'shovels' to hold all the artwork, why is it that the techs doing 'the shovels' cant?

To be quite honest, I've never done a duck bill/pharoh's hat/shovel nail, and I sincerely hope I never get asked. I've been told how to do them so I guess if I had to I could make a decent stab at it. I find I've got plenty of nails to embellish on plain 'ol square nails, with the occasional rounded one thrown in now and then. I wouldn't mind doing a set of stilettos, tho!
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11-11-08, 01:20 AM

Flare nails are not to MY taste, but can appreciate that they may be for others...If a client came to me and asked for these nails I would give my professional opinion as to what I think would suit the clients hands and lifestyle best....I feel thats part of my commitment to my clients, the ultimate choice is down to the client though (although 99% of the time they take my advise )
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11-11-08, 03:04 AM

Hey Geek,
I don't read much on BT so I missed that one. I was just catching up on emails and one of the subjects caught my attention in my geek email. That is really the only time I come and post on here. To be honest with you, this site has so many hidden rules that it is just to confusing to figure out if you are posting in the correct place, etc.

Like a while back I posted, for everyones benefit clay cane artist links and because some of them list them on ebay it was edited and then I was told I posted it in the wrong area. A lot of the artist use ebay to be able to reach everyone but it was looked down upon because they are not professionals (in the beauty industry) and their product is not sold in by the distributors (they are artist not product manufactures).

As far as the links go, sorry I did not realize that you have to be logged in. There is a way around that if you want to look. Just go to www.nailnetworking.niceboard.net (you may have to click the forum botton if it loads the portal and you don't see the pics) the scrolling header that I did has a lot of Angela's and Heather's work in it. You do not have to be logged on to watch the header. When you see Angela's all of the artwork is acrylic not hand painted.

It is definitely different strokes for different folks however it can be accomplished in a nice fashion. As I said the pics that were posted here are a very bad example of what you should expect to see from a flair nail.
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11-11-08, 10:44 AM

I don't think its unfair to say that these flare nails are not elegant....thats not a negative thing nor is it a insult. Its about using words to describe a look, imagine a lady with t-shirt, jeans and trainers..would you consider her look (not her) elegant...? nope, maybe you would use words such as cool, trendy or hip....but her friend in the long beautiful dress...now thats elegant.

So would i call these flare nails elegant...no, but i would call them cool or trendy to those who like this look.
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11-11-08, 11:05 AM

Not my taste at all, I think they are the worst shape I' ever seen, and I wouldn't advertise or use this shape in photos, etc,to advertise, but if someone wanted to pay me to do these then I would, I really hope the trend does not come over here
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11-11-08, 11:21 AM

I do think that there are some very poorly done flares around, with people defending them by saying it's fashion, even though they are uneven and unbalanced, with stumpy looking nail beds.
On the odd occassion I have seen a set that I think are perfectly done, even though I don't personally like them..
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