Hi,

You can buy products as a student from your local wholesaler ie Capital, Barkers, Sallys ect. You do normally need a card, The only place that has asked for my certificates is Sallys!

I hope your self study goes well chick, but I have to agree with 'maximum beauty' You will need more training for sure! When you can produce fab nails that last 2 weeks you will be able to start up as mobile/home salon to build a client base as in my experiance that is what Salon owners are looking for in a self employed tech. I have found the majority of postions available are not employed.

I hope you enjoy your course and I'm sure your little girl will be dead proud of mummy!

hello. its been mentioned b4 . i have just completed the EN acrylic and Maintainance
the tips and glue not good i changed mine and they worked loads better to.
its def no to same as a real hand.

I would really do the maintainance as it doesnt really show u alot of the natural nail. i was v disappointed with it. for a lot of money and its not the same as a real nail. u can watch the dvd from the main course and practise on urself.

Iv just started the nail art?

personally, i think you've waisted your money!
by the time you've paid for the course and the maintenance etc.. you could have paid for a course with creative.

you can't do a conversion with a reputable nail company if you've completed your course with essential nails..

When you first start out in nails and beauty etc you don't understand the big hype about the larger nail companies..i know i didn't.
I don't see how you can become a good nail tech from learning with a DVD...

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Originally Posted by Beautification personally, i think you've waisted your money! by the time you've paid for the course and the maintenance etc.. you could have paid for a course with creative.

Personally, I'm afraid I think it was unkind and unhelpful to suggest to the new EN students posting here that they have 'wasted their money'... You have to appreciate that home learning CAN have it's place within the industry and has been successful for many people. You have to understand that for some students with small children who cannot be away from home to attend a classroom course, home learning is an ideal way (maybe the only way) to learn a new skill which could well develop into an exciting new career.

I don't believe any home learner expects to become a master nail tech overnight, they will know it takes hard work and a LOT of practise - But, with determination it can be done.

I wish you all lots of luck and hope you enjoy your course.

Thats not actually true you can do a conversion with some companys with the EN cert the one i know you cant is CND.

EN i think is a great start for you on the road to nails yes you dont get what you would get from a classroom based course but for some thats there only option.

I think your actually a bit harsh in your reply.

I started with EN, although mine was classroom based, it served me well. It gave me a want and need to learn more and more.

I think it is harsh to say as well that it it is money wasted. It isn't! It puts you on the path to your chosen career. I know of a lot of great techs who started with EN.

If you take a look on you tube there are some on there that would shock you to the core with tutorials with no training, now THAT is a shocking way to learn. Those EN students are doing it the right way!

I think what was meant to say is that yes when you pay to go with a big and well known company as CND people think wow that's expensive, when really it's not. I paid x amount to train with CND got #1 education, was taught why aswell as how, and had the support of a great educator in person there with me. I have 2 little ones one who is 5yo and one who is 2yo and yes it was hard, but I think it would be alot harder to pass with the likes of EN, and prob the same amount of money.

Why is it that people think CND, NSI, OPI are sooo expensive to train with??? well the anwer lies within this social group, the excell at there education ( and tbh they are not much more or even more in comparison than other companys, yes there products are more expensive namely cnd but,, are they really inn the long run, you pay for what you get in my eyes and I KNOW I get great products every time with CND. I can gaurntee if I have a problem with my nails it is down to me NOT my products, and can give my lovely CND educator a call and get great advise.

Sorry to rant ha ha just I have a friend who has enroled on a course in her local college and it has made me angry as she has very little money and she herself thought, shortcut, hey all nail courses must be the same...WRONG, on her list of things to but were, Liquid,,,erm which type, she said dont know,,,,OMG I was shocked, every liquid works diff how Is she meant to learn when her monomer chemistry has not been taught,,,,ohhhh just makes me mad, she didnt even know whay primer was for, but was using it,,,mad xxxxx

Yes I know what you mean. What annoys me is someone rubbishing people wanting to learn!

I went on to train with fab companies and am very proud to now be a CND master l&p artist. I learned a lot before I trained with CND, but wow the training I have with them now is second to none. My whole point is this, you can never dis-credit any form of learning if the learner wants to suceed.

If I knew then what I know now, I would have probably done it differently, however, I do not regret one single thing. I knew nothing before I joined this site about different companies etc.

Totally agree, if someone is dermind to learn they will regardless, just may take long time too realise hey should of done it this way, but its all a learning curve i suppose. Original poster asked will it be easy to get job, short answer no, and yes, depends what type of job. I qualified with cnd in july and I am no where near up to the standard I would class as good, iygwim, but what is important I know what I need to be doing an Know how to do it, just some times cant lol,,,it just takes practise and lots and lots, its not easy and you feel like giving up, you have clients who moan you have clients who know MORE than you, BUT all you can do is smile and get on with it. Some people are just happy with doing okay nails and getting on with it, Me personally I really dont care how long jo blogs down road charges or takes to do nails, I suggest you go there then if thats what you want, I charge what I think my work time and great products deserve, rather than have my clients come back in 2-3 weeks with crap nails, means me spending more time, ie more money,,sooo not really cheaper just clever psychology really xxx

I dont think it matters what course you take. If you are prepared to learn and practice you will get better. The EN course does teach you the basics about the chemical process and the basics about the natural nail but its a beginners course. Some people dont have the option of going to the classroom so have to take the first steps to learning on a different route. I have seen advertised plenty of classroom courses that teach less than the EN course. I was told by my friend who works at a hair dresser that the nail tech at her salon did a nail course in 4 days. How can you possibly be qualified in 4 days?! At least with the EN course and nail trainer you do have to complete over 300 nails for the course. I've been doing mine for a good few months and its nice to see the improvements i've made compared to my first nails. I dont expect to be out charging customers the day after i qualify but all learning has to start somewhere. I also think its difficult to comment on the EN courses and home learning unless you've tried it.

Good luck with your course

I also think until you have done a CND or like wise course its hard to comment ;@,,,,,I am new to the ind and by no means exp or a master, but when it comes to me Knowing more than some nail techs I know who been in business for years about product chemistry and natural nail care I think,,,well im glad I went with CND. I think people get dis allusioned. I am currently studying for my bsc hnr degree and it cost alot of money, im in edge hill liverpool, but obv this is the same as Oxford or cambridge??? no, you pay for what you get, does not gaurntee a job, only you can detrmin that, but they give you the BEST TUTORS best education to get yourself started,,mm food for thought xxx

Sorry I will have to disagree with this. I completed my foundation in 5 days with CND and yes I have learnt how to apply enhancments, and basic product chemistry and H&S and contraindications, plus much more, its not how long it takes it the quality of the education :P iygwim,,,,, With CND

My second paragraph was meant to be my first, don't know what went wrong there, lol xxx

I dont think it matters what course you take.
I disagree, with the greatest respect
I think you mis-understood me and i probably didnt make it clear. The best course in the world would be wasted unless you are willing to learn and practice.

If you are prepared to learn and practice you will get better.
You will only get 'better' if you practice 'perfect practice'!

The EN course does teach you the basics about the chemical process and the basics about the natural nail but its a beginners course.
You will need more education and further classes, for sure!
As i have said, i think the EN course is a beginning and not a quick route to becoming a superb nail tech. I personally plan on taking as much time to learn the skills in and out of the class room as i can, when i can. This is just the beginning

Some people dont have the option of going to the classroom so have to take the first steps to learning on a different route. I have seen advertised plenty of classroom courses that teach less than the EN course. I was told by my friend who works at a hair dresser that the nail tech at her salon did a nail course in 4 days. How can you possibly be qualified in 4 days?!
With companies such as Creative you have a Foundation class which is spread over 5 days (not all together), in which you will learn about nail structure, product chemistry and be shown (in person) how to apply the product, that in itself (IMO) is the most important aspect.
If you meant by this that everyone should be able to make it to the course... well i'm a breastfeeding mum and plan to be for about another year. By then i will be happy to take classroom learning, but for now the EN course has kept me happy and given me something to train towards and think about whilst i'm doing my mummy bit!

I'm aware that the courses with CND etc must be wonderful and katiebbaby i certainly wasnt claiming they arent. Believe me if i could escape to learn in class i would (just for a days peace and quiet with no nappy changing!!) but its not an option for everyone. I was (without trying to cause a mass discussion) just slightly put out that some people cant encourage learning unless its in the route that they themselves have taken. Claiming its a waste of money as someone did is slightly harsh unless you've experienced it IMO.

Different strokes for different folks!!!

Beautification, you have previously posted that you are receiving CND training as a Christmas present this year and I wish you every success. You are fortunate to live a short bus ride away from the training centre in Leeds - I think we should also remember though that not everyone lives within spitting distance of a CND Training Centre - This training, whilst undoubtedly excellent, could also involve the additional cost of hotel accomodation for the trainee (and for the models too!) and also fuel/train expenses.

I understand that the EN courses includes the cost of a Nail Trainer hand and enough practice nails to sink a small battleship... another additional expense to CND training (assuming the CND trainee is planning on practising at home between training sessions).

The costs therefore are not, as you say, always equal.