Calling all nail technicians...past and present! - Page 2

geeg · 23-07-08, 01:54 PM

I know that Creative courses spend a great deal of time on H&S and product knowledge so that technicians work safely right from the start.

CND educators have always taught this way and take it very seriously indeed.

How is it taught ?? Both verbally and reinforced with written information as well, and students are tested and assessed.

One of the many reasons CND have won the Industry education awards they have won and why their training is so respected. In fact they have absolutely led the way in this for almost 30 years.

absolutly fab! · 23-07-08, 02:04 PM

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Caroline,

I have been doing research into the beauty and hairdressing industry for the last three years. In the last year I did a big piece of work on nail work in conjunction with Habia and HSE and one of the recommendations from this work was to look into what health and safety training nail technicians receive. In the previous work we did ask this question but it did not go into detail.

So at the moment I am gathering information to see if

1) there is a need for me to progress further into looking into what health and safety training nail technicians actually receive and

2) to help me get a better understanding of the different courses are on offer and what health and safety training people have received on them.

Therefore after speaking with Samuel Sweet we decided a thread on here would be a good idea to just get some informal information straight from the horses mouth. Then if I decide to do the research I will explore all avenues and perhaps ask for formal participation from Geek members to take part if they wish. If we do go onto this stage, once we have gathered the information, recommendations will be made and then these will need to be taken forward by another party, eg Habia.

Sorry if I have rambled on a bit! Let me know if you need to know anything else. Jade

intresting comments, but, how could this fab research be monitred ,with trainning companies, to enforce that this information is being delivered and understood by the student. At the momen there is no such body to moniter/enforce this .

jadeypops · 23-07-08, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by absolutly fab!

intresting comments, but, how could this fab research be monitred ,with trainning companies, to enforce that this information is being delivered and understood by the student. At the momen there is no such body to moniter/enforce this .

If the research were to take place, once it has been conducted it would be used as evidence that there needed to be a monitoring system for the training that was delivered and whether it was understood. Without having some form of evidence, (even though we know that it needs to happen) it is just not possible to get these changes implemented. Luckily, we have Habia, HSE and Local Authorities on board with the work so eventually something good may come of it!

jadeypops · 23-07-08, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by geeg

I know that Creative courses spend a great deal of time on H&S and product knowledge so that technicians work safely right from the start.

CND educators have always taught this way and take it very seriously indeed.

How is it taught ?? Both verbally and reinforced with written information as well, and students are tested and assessed.

One of the many reasons CND have won the Industry education awards they have won and why their training is so respected. In fact they have absolutely led the way in this for almost 30 years.

Thank you for you information, I really appreciate you taking the time and the more information I can get the better. Thanks

absolutly fab! · 23-07-08, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by jadeypops

If the research were to take place, once it has been conducted it would be used as evidence that there needed to be a monitoring system for the training that was delivered and whether it was understood. Without having some form of evidence, (even though we know that it needs to happen) it is just not possible to get these changes implemented. Luckily, we have Habia, HSE and Local Authorities on board with the work so eventually something good may come of it!

so what type of evidence are you looking for, most people on this site are educated or working towards a good level of competance , this site is used for knowledge and provkes a lot of questions.

absolutly fab! · 23-07-08, 02:29 PM

do you have a website for the organsation you work for?

jadeypops · 23-07-08, 02:34 PM

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so what type of evidence are you looking for, most people on this site are educated or working towards a good level of competance , this site is used for knowledge and provkes a lot of questions.

At the moment, I am primarily looking at gathering information about the extent of health and safety content of nail technicians training and its application in practice. This is only designed to be a short piece of work. It will be written up and the main findings summarised. Depending on what is found will depend on what the next step is. At this stage I am just looking for answers to the questions I originally posted on the thread.

When discussing evidence, I was merely saying that if there is a need for a change this will be later down the line in terms of our research and that for it to happen the government need report based evidence.

Jade

jadeypops · 02:46 PM

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We do have a website, although having jsut looked at it, its not very useful!

Centre for Workplace Health - Introduction

I am going to have a look on the HSE website as I think that some of our publications are on there. If not I may be able to send you some reports that we have completed.

Jade

This is the last report that we did on nail bars

RR627 - Health and safety in nail bars

This is another one we have worked on

Respiratory issues and dermatitis in hairdressers and nail bars

And I am currently working on some data from salon owners/managers which will hopefully be available in the next few months

absolutly fab! · 23-07-08, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by jadeypops

This is the last report that we did on nail bars

RR627 - Health and safety in nail bars

This is another one we have worked on

Respiratory issues and dermatitis in hairdressers and nail bars

And I am currently working on some data from salon owners/managers which will hopefully be available in the next few months

blimey you have been busy !

jadeypops · 23-07-08, 03:07 PM

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blimey you have been busy !

Well its not just me, there are a few of us working on it. But it definitley keeps me busy!

Can I just say to all of you, thanks for all your comments and your time, it is much appreciated!!

Teresac · 08:36 AM

Hi ya

Health and Safety,hygiene standards were adhered to throughout my time at my local college where I did my level3, washing of hands before each client etc

I use gel nail products so I dont have issue with ventalation, I know this has been mentioned

and for my implements, i have a portable steriliser....then barbicide when I get home. I give nail files to the client. I change my tools regularly too so they stay in top order.

I did do a short manicure course (5days) around 4 years ago...h&s was mentioned. I felt it was adequate for the needs of the course.

like most industries you get the good and the bad. There are always companies that want to make a fast buck, this industry is just like any of them, but they do have a legal requirement to teach H&S, is there a particular syllabus?

It will (in my opinion) always boil down to the therapist. The onis has to be on the individual to be responsible after their training, it just depends if they have the common sense to be responsible or cut corners in h&s.

Teresac · 24-07-08, 08:38 AM

I forgot to ask, are you part of a steering group?

jadeypops · 24-07-08, 01:42 PM

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I forgot to ask, are you part of a steering group?

We have a generic steering group for the Beauty Industry as a whole and there are representatives from each discipline, although this group has not met for a long time as the need has not been there.

If the research does progress, I may hold a steering group meeting specifically for the health and safety training to see what people have to say on the issues.

Sals · 24-07-08, 04:20 PM

Hi Jade, I have trained with two nail companies (one of which was at the lower end of the product market) and the emphasis on H&S was very much a major part of this. However there are a lot of salons out there that work with little or no care for this vital part of the industry, primarily because the staff employed are not properly (if at all) trained. I'd be very interested to find out more about your work and any conclusions you come up with.

absolutly fab! · 25-07-08, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Sals

Hi Jade, I have trained with two nail companies (one of which was at the lower end of the product market) and the emphasis on H&S was very much a major part of this. However there are a lot of salons out there that work with little or no care for this vital part of the industry, primarily because the staff employed are not properly (if at all) trained. I'd be very interested to find out more about your work and any conclusions you come up with.

good comments, does the overall responsability fall with the manager?