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Exclaim Should I do a nursing degree after my nvq3 to get into aesthetics? help please!! - 15-05-11, 07:45 PM

I'm in desperate need of advice!!

My dream is to work in aesthetics (ipl, skin peels, botox, etc etc) and i have 5 weeks left till i complete by beauty nvq3 (I did a 5 month intensive course in london). After doing allot of research online, there seems to be much more job opportunities for aesthetic nurses than aesthetic therapists (and better pay!) does anyone know if it would be worth doing a nursing degree in order to get to the top of this field? I would be doing the degree purely to work in the aesthetics sector, but also I think it would be good to have as a career if aesthetics didnt work out. What does everyone think about this, and does anyone know if getting a job in this sector of beauty is difficult? all the medispas/ salons ive looked at that specialise in aesthetics require a few years experience, but i dont know how they expect me to gain that if every job requires it before starting!

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15-05-11, 08:19 PM

I actually have a friend on my level 3 who decided to do this. As she has only done year 1 I can't say how good it is.

If you are capable then why not! Dont forget it's a 3 year course and you need to be prepared for it to take you a long time to get to your dream.

Good luck! Sorry I wasn't very helpful!
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15-05-11, 08:56 PM

As Pinkbunny says the nursing degree is 3 years and as a nurse myself I know the training is not for the faint hearted, you should be aware that it will consist of lots of bed baths and bum wiping etc so be certain it's what you want. Sorry to sound a bit negative but it's a big commitment to go into without knowing the full extent of the nursing degree, on the plus side if you can manage it, it will allow you to realise your dream.
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15-05-11, 08:56 PM

Nursing is very much vocational, unless you actually want to be a nurse it may be hard to complete as to then go on to do aesthetics you would then need to work as a nurse for 3 years then do a 6 month degree course to become a prescriber before you can administer botox.

The regulations are changing so if you administer botox as a nurse without the qualification you face being struck off the register. Others are enforcing these new regulations now as one of the first pharmacies are not dispensing botox from remote prescriptions which is what non prescribing nurses and beauty therapists need to use to obtain the product. The industry is now recognising the need for safe practice.

If you feel you can do a nursing course then work for 3 years in the NHS or private sector (not doing aesthetics) then go for it, nursing is wonderful! x
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15-05-11, 09:48 PM

thank you for your replies, all very helpful!

My sister-in-law is a nurse, and she has told me that the training is hard and not glamorous at all! I think i just need to weigh up if its worth doing and will lead to more opportunites for me.

Smooth, i dont intend to work for myself but to work for an aesthetic clinic, so i wouldnt be administering the botox myself, but working in a clinic as an aesthetic nurse. would this mean i would still have to train for 3 years after the degree? and if so, why does this need to be done? (I am fairly unsure of how the nursing career works and so I obviously need to more research before i take this step!)

does anyone also know if there are aesthetic courses i can go on?


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16-05-11, 07:58 PM

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thank you for your replies, all very helpful!

My sister-in-law is a nurse, and she has told me that the training is hard and not glamorous at all! I think i just need to weigh up if its worth doing and will lead to more opportunites for me.

Smooth, i dont intend to work for myself but to work for an aesthetic clinic, so i wouldnt be administering the botox myself, but working in a clinic as an aesthetic nurse. would this mean i would still have to train for 3 years after the degree? and if so, why does this need to be done? (I am fairly unsure of how the nursing career works and so I obviously need to more research before i take this step!)

does anyone also know if there are aesthetic courses i can go on?


Thank you so much!
I don't think any medical course could be seen as glamorous, it is hard work, combining NHS and Uni work too but it is worthwhile. To be able to administer botox you need to work one to one with a prescriber or be a prescriber yourself, they are the new regulations. If there is a prescriber in the clinic with you then they would be more inclined to do the treatment themselves. You could get a job and just administer things like dermal fillers or do peels etc but not botox or any other POM. To be a prescriber though you do need to work for 3 years and then do a 6 month degree course there is no other way around that so it is actually quicker to study medicine or dentistry as that is 5 years.
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16-05-11, 08:13 PM

I can't imagine training to be a nurse unless you really, really want to do it.
I trained when Florence was a girl and it was bloody hard work even then! I went into theatres straight away after qualifying; far fewer bed baths and it was better for both the patient and me if they were unconscious by the time they got to me!

I've just promised my husband that I won't undertake the prescribing course for at least a year, as I've just finished a CIBTAC course, which was sheer, unutterable hell. And that was for only 4 months!
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I can't imagine training to be a nurse unless you really, really want to do it.
I trained when Florence was a girl and it was bloody hard work even then! I went into theatres straight away after qualifying; far fewer bed baths and it was better for both the patient and me if they were unconscious by the time they got to me!

I've just promised my husband that I won't undertake the prescribing course for at least a year, as I've just finished a CIBTAC course, which was sheer, unutterable hell. And that was for only 4 months!
Hi Lynne

What is the CIBTAC course? Do you really need to do the prescribing course, it is hard work and you basically have no life for 6 months. Again, worthwhile though. x
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18-05-11, 08:21 PM

Hi all,

Interesting thread. As for doing a nursing degree just to get into medical aesthetics, it depends on where you stand on nursing.

It's a pretty complicated and extremely demanding way to get into it to just be able to administer Botox! And as people have said, the new regulations mean that it will be inevitable that aesthetic nurses will require the prescribing qualification which can be expensive to obtain if you do not get the support in your qualified nurse job in the NHS which is VERY unlikely unless you are quite senior and it is essential to that role.

I think that a lot of souls searching is needed to decide to do a nursing degree as it is in no way a 'job' it is a vocation. You have to want to help people, which can of course mean aesthetics, but just to jump through the hurdles of the degree is crazy.

It's very unlike any other degree, you do 50% practical I.e full time hours in the hospital including nights, weekends and bank holidays. You also do 50% theory, writing assignments etc.

I don't want to out you off this wonderful career and I still work full time in the NHS as an Advanced Nurse Practitioner Trainee, but I feel if the sole drive is purely aesthetics/Botox this might not be enough to carry you through.

I think it would work if you aimed to maybe even work part time when qualified in a specialist field to get some good experience, this could even be in the private sector such as cosmetic surgery wards etc. Then you would need at least three years post qualified experience to even be able to apply for the prescribing course as you need a wide range of experience of diseases, medicines management and pharmacology etc and you could get that through working in the private sector. You could then compliment this with doing beauty as well, like fillers, peels and non medical treatments and build it up as your career develops.

The choice is up to you in the end and maybe list all the pro's and cons.

I want to get into botox and medical cosmetics for over four years before I finally bit the bullet and started in January this years, but I knew I would probably need to be able to prescribe to be as successful as possible on my own so I did this first in my full time job 2 years before I started botox etc.

Hope this helps.....

Ps @ Lynne- the px course isn't that horrendous once you get going and I'd be happy to share my portfolio etc with you if you want to consider it in the near future! X
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18-05-11, 08:33 PM

I've just successfully completed the CIBTAC electrical and blend epilation course. I got a shed load of APL because I'm a nurse, but even so it was awful!
I want to do the prescribing course so I can do botox etc, and do deeper peels and longer microneedling, but I really can't even face studying the back of a fag packet, let alone anything more taxing.
Thanks Adam, I might take you up on the portfolio offerl; it's very kind of you!
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I think it would work if you aimed to maybe even work part time when qualified in a specialist field to get some good experience, this could even be in the private sector such as cosmetic surgery wards etc. Then you would need at least three years post qualified experience to even be able to apply for the prescribing course as you need a wide range of experience of diseases, medicines management and pharmacology etc and you could get that through working in the private sector. You could then compliment this with doing beauty as well, like fillers, peels and non medical treatments and build it up as your career develops.


Exactly what I said lol.

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I've just successfully completed the CIBTAC electrical and blend epilation course. I got a shed load of APL because I'm a nurse, but even so it was awful!
I want to do the prescribing course so I can do botox etc, and do deeper peels and longer microneedling, but I really can't even face studying the back of a fag packet, let alone anything more taxing.
Thanks Adam, I might take you up on the portfolio offerl; it's very kind of you!
Good job they APL'd your qualification Lynne. Unless you study at the same university as Adam I would not look at anyone else's portfolio. A friend of mine let me see her uni work and it was so different from my course. The content is the same but they all have different learning outcomes that you end up getting bogged down on what others have done rather than concentrate on your own. I sent a friend my revision notes and she went white in the face as it covered concordance, data protection act, law etc whereas she only had to cover strict pharmacology (even though you could argue that concordance is an important aspect).

The V300 course is a lot of work especially if you work full time and have a family. It's hard when you start the pharmacology even if you've done it before but when it clicks it's a breeze. However, we had two pharamacists on our course and we all thought they'd pass top of the class, they did pass but not with the score that we all thought they'd get. There were exam questions that they didn't know but that may be because they thought they knew pharmacology and may not have revised it. They had that particular module on APL but still had to do the exam.

Anyway Lynne, if you do choose to do your V300 course you will fly through it, you have great knowledge, an obviously good study technique with time management. Just start saving the pennies as it's around 1200!! I'm sure your hubby will be absolutely fine with you doing it x
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