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I used phd many years ago, I did not get on with it then as at that time they only had one size of head, and found it fiddly for anything other than legs, However have just gone back to using it, as it it is far more hygenic and they now have 3 different head sizes for underarm bikin areas. and a tiny one for eyebrows, they also have 4/5 different waxes on offer and going on the training day is invaluable, came away with total confidence, and absolutely love it, yes at first you do use more wax than perhaps normal but you will soon get the hang of it promise! good luck

I still think it was sold totally on 'scare tactics'

A box of spatulas costs you £1 - that is a clean hygeinic way of using wax.

I bought it - then sold it.

If your wanting to do fast treatments mobile - it will take so much longer.

At the moment it is what I use, it is what I was intially trained in and its working well for me. I do sometimes wonder if it is significantly more expensive then traditional Pot & Spatula waxing and whether or not I should look at changing over to that - I may get a heater for Warm Wax to see how I get on.

It is a nice little system, it can be a bugger to keep the wax warm and keep it at the right temperature. I've found setting the temp to keep the wax in the booster chamber warm means that when you get a new tube that is too hot to apply to a client so you need to let that cool down first.

As for the marketing - has there been any studies / research into cross-contamination? As in an infection as a result of the therapist not using proper techniques? I'm certainly not aware of any, and yes I agree it is slightly based on scare tactics some of the marketing. And of course once you adopt PHD that is it - you can't use a wax from another supplier.

Mat

Ah thanks fozzyo - thought I was going to get some grief.

I dont think its a bad system.


I just think - how long was has been going - years and years and there has never been a case of cross infection. Im pretty sure there would have been by now.

I still dont think there is any direct contact with the spatula and skin as the wax is inbetween the spatula and skin.

The downside to pot and spat - it takes a while to master and is very messy when your starting out. But thats all.

I have trained in both pot and spatula and PHD, although I like the old fashioned pot/spatula method I have just ordered a PHD system because I am mobile and think it will be much easier and the wax will heat up quicker than the P/S method

I think whatever you use it takes a while to get used to it, but it's just a matter of finding the right system that works for you

It is what works best for you. I had the PhD system for a couple of years, I used it while training and went up to coventry for the Ellisons course, but i had problems because i have small hands and actually squeezing the tube in the right way was a problem. I has too many issues with it and just sold it and went back to pot and spatula. Yes, it is difficult explaining to my clients, but they watch me work hygienically, felt for me when i was having problems with the PhD system and started to stress! I would not knock the system in any way, but it just wasn't for me.

That was why I bought it - I thought it would end the spillages in the car and would be easier to cart about - but alas it wasnt meant to be.

I found phd did not heat up quick enough - it takes ages. At least with p/s you can heat it up and use the melted bit around the sides for a brow wax - you cant do this with phd.

Minipig - love your Jared Leto pic - he was luch then.

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yep i also had a hive roller system absulutely great, yep far cheaper than PHD but i like the concept of PHD and how clean it all is, I use the wax papers from the wholesalers tho and sometimes use pre and post lotions from wholesalers does help with the cost.

Hi All, I've been thinking about spatula vs roller for a little while as I'm about to start doing mobile work.

Just to say thanks to you all I've now decided to go back to my roots and carry on with the old style pot&spatula!!! Very true about heating time on the regular pot...you can use the bit thats melted while you wait for the rest.

Can anyone give me tips on best ways to carry it around on travel...I don't even want to imagine the mess it would make in my car etc should anything goes wrong!

Star

Got a big platic storage box with a lid and my pot and bits and pieces all go in there (little boxes for tweezers etc).

For the legs I take the pot out and place it on a mobile plastic trolly- the one someone has mentioned in chit chat but if its just brows it stays in the plastic storage box.

My pot is small and has a big base so that it is more sturdy and less likely to get knocked over.

For mobile I find a smaller pot easier (need to fill it up more but if it is spilled - theres less wax to lose)

xx

I have a carry case that I bought from Ellisons, it's supposed to be for the phd system but it fits my Hive 1000cc heater plus all bits quite nicely. I either wedge it into the boot of the car so it can't move about or put it on the front seat. You could put the seatbelt round it if you want to be really sure of it not going anywhere!

I would also suggest not having the waxpot completely full. If it's too full it's very easy to just tip it a bit too much and it goes EVERYWHERE!