Transexual waxing

indulgebeauty · **Transexual waxing -** 04-12-07, 03:11 PM

right here goes,

i had a transexual in a few weeks ago for a brow wax and he wanted them done to perfection which i done to his request. Now he has just been in and has asked me to wax his face, this is really coarse and i wouldn't dream of doing it, i explained that his hair is far too coarse and short that this would be really un comfortable. I asked him to come back after his hormone treatment and we'll go from there, i said i will do some research (salon geek) and let him know next time he/she is in.

Has anyone ever waxed a mans face? or a he/she's face?

fozzyo · 04-12-07, 03:41 PM

No idea about the waxing, but can help with how to deal with trannies. I'm an occasional drag queen and have several tranny friends.

Whenever they are 'dressed' (en femme) you should always refer to them in the feminine and by their chosen female name. You say she is going for hormone therapy, in that case I would assume that she comes to you as her feminine self, in that case you are referring to and working with a lady, not a man.

Can I also add, from a purely business angle she could prove to be a very lucrative customer. Within the transgender community it can be very hard to find beauty / hair salons (wigs need styling too) that are happy and comfortable treating transgendered clients. You will also find a lot of TG clients may have other TG friends and, like all women, they like to talk and recommend people and places.

If anyone would like any advice or suggestions about dealing with Transgendered clients please feel free to ask.

Mat xx

indulgebeauty · 04-12-07, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by fozzyo

No idea about the waxing, but can help with how to deal with trannies. I'm an occasional drag queen and have several tranny friends.

Whenever they are 'dressed' (en femme) you should always refer to them in the feminine and by their chosen female name. You say she is going for hormone therapy, in that case I would assume that she comes to you as her feminine self, in that case you are referring to and working with a lady, not a man.

Can I also add, from a purely business angle she could prove to be a very lucrative customer. Within the transgender community it can be very hard to find beauty / hair salons (wigs need styling too) that are happy and comfortable treating transgendered clients. You will also find a lot of TG clients may have other TG friends and, like all women, they like to talk and recommend people and places.

If anyone would like any advice or suggestions about dealing with Transgendered clients please feel free to ask.

Mat xx

yes well i think SHE is very comfortable with me as she has asked me to do her bikini waxing and has asked me if i am ok doing this, which i am. You are right about the lucrative - i know she wants a facial and her legs waxing at some point too.
thanks x

avivajoy · 04:17 PM

I remember reading on Salon Geek that you musnt wax mens facial hair. If I were you I would do a search as I know I read soemthing about it here. Otherwise ask Axiom as (unless Im completely mad) hes the expert.
I would love to know more about the transgender world. If it isnt for this thread could you pm me mat? hth and thanks

gillian w · 04-12-07, 04:16 PM

Advise also that if he were to have waxing this can make it more difficult and less effective to perform electrolysis,which he may want in the future for a more permanent solution.

Axiom · 04-12-07, 04:22 PM

You can wax the stray hairs on the upper cheeks and lower neck with hard wax, but I'd advise against waxing any further into the beard area as the hair here is extremely coarse, densely packed and deeply rooted. It also has a very rich blood and nerve supply, so (a) it will hurt like crazy, (b) it can often bleed like there's no tomorrow, and (c) there's a risk of infection and scarring.

The only time I would wax into the beard itself would be if the hair was very fine and wispy (i.e. the type of chap who only has to shave once a week). If your client has started hormone therapy, you may find her facial hair thins and weakens to the point that it is okay to wax, but hormone therapy can affect people in a myriad of different ways and the facial hair is not always affected to any significant degree. Be aware that the skin is also likely to experience some changes which may impact on your treatment.

IPL and/or electrolysis are good options for clients who wish to reduce or remove their facial hair, and in fact this would probably be my first recommendation over waxing for the majority of people. In fact I've been told by several electrologists that waxing can cause problems if the client later wants to go down more permanent routes. EDIT: just noticed Gill advised the same - Gill, can you shed some more light on why this is the case?

HTHs

Andy x

indulgebeauty · 04-12-07, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by gillian w

Advise also that if he were to have waxing this can make it more difficult and less effective to perform electrolysis,which he may want in the future for a more permanent solution.

yes i was thinking that. I know you can buy special wax for men but i don't fancy putting it on their face.
"she" said when "she" has her hormone treatment the hairs will be alot finer so will be easier to wax. Tricky one really.

thanks

gillian w · 04-12-07, 04:32 PM

To be honest even if you did it probably wouldn't touch it.

indulgebeauty · 04-12-07, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Axiom

You can wax the stray hairs on the upper cheeks and lower neck with hard wax, but I'd advise against waxing any further into the beard area as the hair here is extremely coarse, densely packed and deeply rooted. It also has a very rich blood and nerve supply, so (a) it will hurt like crazy, (b) it can often bleed like there's no tomorrow, and (c) there's a risk of infection and scarring.

The only time I would wax into the beard itself would be if the hair was very fine and wispy (i.e. the type of chap who only has to shave once a week). If your client has started hormone therapy, you may find her facial hair thins and weakens to the point that it is okay to wax, but hormone therapy can affect people in a myriad of different ways and the facial hair is not always affected to any significant degree. Be aware that the skin is also likely to experience some changes which may impact on your treatment.

IPL and/or electrolysis are good options for clients who wish to reduce or remove their facial hair, and in fact this would probably be my first recommendation over waxing for the majority of people. In fact I've been told by several electrologists that waxing can cause problems if the client later wants to go down more permanent routes. EDIT: just noticed Gill advised the same - Gill, can you shed some more light on why this is the case?

HTHs

Andy x

thats great, thanks for your advice x

gillian w · 04-12-07, 04:40 PM

Waxing can distort the follicle so when inserting the electrolysis needle it cannot reach down to the base of the follicle to pass the destroying current to cauterise the hair from its blood supply.

Zo Zo · 04-12-07, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by gillian w

Waxing can distort the follicle so when inserting the electrolysis needle it cannot reach down to the base of the follicle to pass the destroying current to cauterise the hair from its blood supply.

I agree with this in regard to 'diathermy' aka 'thermolysis' or 'short wave' *but* it can be overcome with the 'blend' method.

However, I don't think I would wax a man's face, well certainly not if it was 'normal' beard growth. I would happily treat them with electrolysis

kerry33 · 04-12-07, 09:15 PM

I would definately recommend electrolysis or IPL.Ive treated a few transexuals with electrolysis and had great results.Ive also treated male clients with IPL and had great results with that too.

Kim Lawless · 04-12-07, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by avivajoy

I remember reading on Salon Geek that you musnt wax mens facial hair.

It's not that you MUSN'T, it should be explained fully to the client that the hair can grow back very patchy.

Katelisa · 04-12-07, 11:04 PM

ive waxed a beard before. but it was only fine hair. finer than most bikini lines!!

and i usually try and whip off the hair on my bf's cheek bones. but im risking life and limb when i do that as he is a wimp and trys to kill me everytime lol.

I used to work in a wig salon, my TG and TV clients were my faves!!

Once someone swung at one of the other women that worked there cuz she called her a him, eek!!