Advice needed on product line to take!

[Fluffyfriend]

Hi all, what a handy website to be part of! Was hoping there would be a site like this up and running. Basically I've just been granted a lease on a new unit just built here in Galway. I'm in the midst of sorting the inside decor out and am now at the scary stage of picking which skincare products im going to use. I will be getting a loan from the credit union for whichever line I choose so I want to choose wisely...I would be very grateful to hear from anyone that could advise me on what you use or your experinces with skincare products etc....I havn't applied for the loan yet so I'm not necessarily looking to go with any particular price range...its expensive but worth it then that fine by me..thats my attitude so all advice is very welcome please...let me know what the starting/opening orders are too if possible? Hope to get to know and make friends with a lot of you geeks in the future...thanks..Mags

 

[An*Gel]

Hi Mags,

Welcome to the site:hug:... nice to see another Irish geek on here..what do you specialise in?.. it doesn't say on your profile

 

[Fluffyfriend]

Hi Karen..lovely to hear from you too. Sorry i'm just getting to grips with the profile thing etc...it's skincare I'm into Karen. How about you? Thanks for the reply! Also, is my post in the right place for all people to see it?

 

[Martin Duffy]

Although all of us could recommend the product we use, the reason it works for us is because it is (hopefully) chosen to match our ethos & our clients needs.

It is best to decide what your clients are looking for in a range, i.e. natural, medical, expensive, middle of the road, well-known, unheard of, etc etc. You then need to get the company reps out, if possible try the treatments, and find out what support you will be getting in the short & long term (to make sure you don't get ditched after the first year!). Also check locally to see that the product isn't oversaturated in the area - on that point ask the rep what their policy is on giving accounts to new salons as some companies cap the number of approved salons in a given area.

You also need to see if it's a range you can fully get behind & promote, above all you need to believe in it. Whatever you do, don't rush it & plump for the first one you like the sound of!

 

[realisticbeauty]

welcome to salon geek your now officialy a geek!!!:lol: I was in the same situation as you a couple of months back starting out on my own and didnt know which skin care to have so i emailed loads of skin care companys who sent me out samples of their products and information on their start up packages so this is worth doing. In the end i went for Eve Taylor as i loved the smell not to over powering like alot of the samples the consistancy of the products are fab it looks very professional and the customer service is excellent also there is no minimum order which i found alot of companys had. if you want more info on the start up packages hun i have still got the info so just p.m me. Another thing though if your not in a rush to get it why not hold out until the professional beauty show as there will be alot of companys up there.
good luck with the new business :hug:

 

[Martin Duffy]

I use Decleor, and I can't remember what the minimum order is offhand, but it cost me about £4,800 minus VAT for all the professional products, retail, tester stand etc, and the training is free for up to 3 people if I remember rightly.

 

[lenna]

i use dermalogica presently but am looking at getting a new range, eve taylor, swiss dermyl do very reasonable start up packages

 

[Martin Duffy]

For what I got I thought it was very reasonable, and their support etc is unbeaten compared to what I've gotten with other skincare companies I've worked with. I got loads of retail for that, at least one of everything & 2 of the things I thought I'd sell the most - I then increased the stock of the things I sold the most of in actuality!

You can order as little as you like, but I think the free p&p limit is about £200 - I tend to order about £400 at a time, normally monthly.

I agree the Decleor facials are to die for! A few of my clients have said they felt their Decleor facial with me was like having a day at a spa!

 

[Fluffyfriend]

Thanks Martin...Ill get in contact with them tomorrow and see what they say...anybody else got any other experiences or advice on other brands? thank you all so far

 

[Fluffyfriend]

Hi again guys, I've just recieved a load of samples and info in the post this morning...very exiting ...they haven't quoted me on there minimum order though which I find a bit strange! Anyone know the minimums for dermalogica, elemis and md formulations? Cant wait to try them all!

 

[Martin Duffy]

I think there's a few Dermaologica posts on here that mention the start up costs, I think it was around the £3,000 mark. Regarding Elemis, I seem to remember someone saying recently that they wouldn't supply to a salon with less than three rooms as they were going for the spa market. I have used Elemis in the past, but it was about 11 years ago, so I suspect start-up prices have changed since then!

 

[Fluffyfriend]

Thanks Martin...much appreciated....

 

[Red Ruby]

Hi Fluffyfriend,i spoke to a lady from Environ last week and they do a really reasonable start up package. Environ i dont think is as popular here in Ireland yet as it is in the UK. Its suppose to be a very results driven skincare system. Maybe there are others here who know more about this brand that can give you better advice. Im meeting their area manager week after next so maybe then i can tell you more.

 

[Fluffyfriend]

Hi Red Ruby...yes I've heard Environ are quite good. Not sure if I want a product thats very medicated though...was hoping to get a range that is a mix of relaxing/results driven. Ill get in touch with them all the same to see what they offer. Thanks

 

[lisa lou]

hi i'm new on here too and i'm now officially addicted :lol: i have plumped for dermalogica my stock etc arrived the other day min order approx 3500 but i did not want a few bits on that package so i cancelled a few and when you pay in full on the day you get 5% discount,

in the salon i used to work in we had elemis and dermalogica, elemis were a nightmare they are deff focusing on spa's . we had 6 treatment rooms yet they still left our orders on the back burner it used to take on average 3-4 weeks to recieve the stock so i would steer clear of them xxx

have fun trying all your samples though xxx:hug:

 

[single sparkle]

Hi

i'm pretty new here myself - i have a small salon in Dublin- i currently use academie french cosmetics where there is no minimum order - you can speak to a rep and they can advise on certain products that accompany certain facials - well worth a call. The other thing i would advise would be to call a few companies and ask if they have any training days coming up that you can avail of as you are looking to get a new line of skincare ?? That way you can try them out and see what way the facial works- they should do this for free . . . ?

hope this helps

 

[Fluffyfriend]

Thanks Lisa & Single Sparkle...I'll look more into those brands too!

 

[bourbonsbabe]

i use dermalogica presently but am looking at getting a new range, eve taylor, swiss dermyl do very reasonable start up packages

Anybody know the swiss dermyl start up cost or a link for me to look into this?? Decleor is quite tempting as well though but I need to also make a decision (part of my business plan detail)

Thanks
Sarah x

 

[kirstys beauty]

Hi

I use dermalogica I took it on in may last year and took there big package which i think was about 6000, with that I got one of all my professional products body and face. Two or three of all retail sizes and a tester stand which is a great retail tall I cant do with out, as it mean you can show the clients how to use them and they can try the products even if they only come in for a pedicure and see what sizes they come in and how long they are going to last. Also they do on going train for you and an staff you have and you can go and recap any time you want and it is free no matter how many times you go. They are always launching new lines but there is never any pressure for you to take them on. You get put on there website for free so if someone in your area is looking for dermalogica and they go on the website it will tell them where there nearist stockist is. They also have product support so for instants if you get a new client come in and they are allegic to something and you are not sure if it is in any product you just phone there free phone number and they will tell you if it is in any product. I have worked with out product houses when i worked for people but i have always used dermalogica on my own skin and cant fault it.

Hope this is helpful

Kirsty @ Kirsty's beauty

 

[Fluffyfriend]

Hi all,

Thanks so much for all your help and advice. I have decided to go with the Eve Taylor range. I received samples from them that were really excellent, with the no minimum order policy and the affordable prices I have to go with them. Thanks again for all your help girls and Martin. Hope to chat to you all soon agian. - Mags xx