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Steve Sheldon

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I have a client that is wanting me to do an "Air Perm" on her. I am somewhat familiar in as much, as I know that this process does not use a chemical neutralizer, rather oxygen in the air. I have read where some suggest the client remaining in rods for 24 hrs and others for 12 hours. Has anyone had any experience in this, and if so:
1) What is the minimum time needed to air neutralize?
2) What is the best perm to use for this process on colored hair?
3) Are there any other steps needed to be taken rather than just to rinse the waving lotion and wait?

Steve
 
I have a client that is wanting me to do an "Air Perm" on her. I am somewhat familiar in as much, as I know that this process does not use a chemical neutralizer, rather oxygen in the air. I have read where some suggest the client remaining in rods for 24 hrs and others for 12 hours. Has anyone had any experience in this, and if so:
1) What is the minimum time needed to air neutralize?
2) What is the best perm to use for this process on colored hair?
3) Are there any other steps needed to be taken rather than just to rinse the waving lotion and wait?

Steve
wow! I've been hairdressing for 20 years and never heard of such a thing! I'll definitely be reading up on this! #alwayslearning !
 
wow! I've been hairdressing for 20 years and never heard of such a thing! I'll definitely be reading up on this! #alwayslearning !
I have found a little info online, but haven't actually chatted with anyone that has any experience. It is supposed to be so much more gentle than using the actual neutralizer. (Which makes sense being as how the neutralizer is the most harsh part of a traditional perm) Not many people want to be in rods for 24 hrs! lol
 
haha I would think they wld!
 
Why would you want to!!!!!
This is how it all began.....way back even before the days of Teasy-Weasy!
The ‘coldwave’ - as opposed to being wired up and heated - originally necessitated the client going home with the rods in, and ‘air neutralisation’ could then take place.
They would then return the next day for ‘finishing’.
I’ve no idea why your client would prefer to use this outdated method .... what benefit is there to gain?
Yes it’s a chemical - but so is the perm solution itself.
 
Why would you want to!!!!!
This is how it all began.....way back even before the days of Teasy-Weasy!
The ‘coldwave’ - as opposed to being wired up and heated - originally necessitated the client going home with the rods in, and ‘air neutralisation’ could then take place.
They would then return the next day for ‘finishing’.
I’ve no idea why your client would prefer to use this outdated method .... what benefit is there to gain?
Yes it’s a chemical - but so is the perm solution itself.
From what she has stated in research and what little I have done, this method is "suppose" to leave the hair much healthier and the curl more "permanent". I personally don't know, am still researching. She is convinced that this is what she wants to do.
 
Apart from a low volume peroxide , neutraliser is significantly less damaging than perm lotion ,
I would explain that any residue of perm lotion left on after rinsing could be more damaging than the neutralising process
 
To be honest....I can't believe your entertaining the notion!

As a profession, we need to stop allowing the Non Professional to tell us our job.:p

You will also doubtless discover you insurance company will not be keen...
This old antiquated method does not follow manufacturers instructions! :cool:
 
Yeah don't leave perm solution in, it could irritate or get into her eyes. You can neutralise with Olaplex.
 
I have researched this BS buzz lingo & found nothing but erroneous data & no actual fact based instructions on how to complete this procedure. There is no mention of when to remove the rods & what if anything is applied to the hair to "strengthen" it & make it "Better/healthier" 1 site claims it is recommended to leave the perm solution on overnight! WTF! It still uses the traditional perm solution of your choice & even claims that neutralizing is more damaging then the solution!......any qualified chem tech knows that the solution breaks the disulfide bonds that hold the K together (which is formed of several amino acids on a molecular level) & if a too strong solution is used on sensitive & or finer hair types with less keratin & weaker disulfide bonds holding the K together that form 95% of the hairs structure, a chemical haircut is suredly to result! Perm solutions come in various strengths to accommodate the clients hair structure. The neutralizer is the key to re-forming/building these broken disulfide bonds back to normal, good as new! The H202 is such a low volume in a neutralizer & it role is to actually introduce more new oxygen molecules in to the disulfide bonds which is crucial in the reforming process since the oxygen molecules have been removed from the ammonium thioglycolate in the solution used to break the initial bonds in the first place! This "air perm" is hog wash at best......do what I have done for years .....after rinsing the solution out first with warm h2o then with tepid-cool h20 to end rinsing, towel blot, then place client under a low air, cool temp hood dryer for 15-20 mins. This makes the hair more porous for accepting the neutralizer so it penetrates more deeply then damp hair thats towel blotted only. Then apply neutralizer. time 5 mins to saturate then remove rods, tepid-cool rinse then conditioner. Send her this to read since she wants a BS service then she should better understand the processhopefully!

https://is.muni.cz/el/1431/podzim2013/C3804/The_chemistry_of_perming___rebonding.txt
 
I am surprised to see the comment calling an Air Perm "hogwash," and others calling it "old fashioned." I have been getting perms for over 40 years. When I got my 1st Air Perm 10 years ago, it was like a miracle had occurred. The results are so much better than you can get from a standard perm. My hair is extremely fine and has suffered a chemical haircut before from the standard perm process. The Air Perm does not cause the damage that standard perms caused to my hair. Also, the curls are natural looking and long lasting. There is a HUGE difference in how the curls ultimately turn out. It is quite frankly amazing! I will never allow a standard perm to touch my hair again. Even though I have to drive to a different town to get an air perm, and sleep with rods on my head overnight, and drive back to the other town the next day to get the rods out --- it is well worth the trouble, because the results are nothing like a standard perm. It has been very disappointing to discover that so few stylists know how to perform the Air Perm. And even more disappointing to see some of you dismissing the Air Perm out of hand. I speak from decades of experience, and extensive trials and tribulations. No -- the Air Perm is not "hogwash." It is the gold standard for perms. There is just no comparison.
 
I am surprised to see the comment calling an Air Perm "hogwash," and others calling it "old fashioned." I have been getting perms for over 40 years. When I got my 1st Air Perm 10 years ago, it was like a miracle had occurred. The results are so much better than you can get from a standard perm. My hair is extremely fine and has suffered a chemical haircut before from the standard perm process. The Air Perm does not cause the damage that standard perms caused to my hair. Also, the curls are natural looking and long lasting. There is a HUGE difference in how the curls ultimately turn out. It is quite frankly amazing! I will never allow a standard perm to touch my hair again. Even though I have to drive to a different town to get an air perm, and sleep with rods on my head overnight, and drive back to the other town the next day to get the rods out --- it is well worth the trouble, because the results are nothing like a standard perm. It has been very disappointing to discover that so few stylists know how to perform the Air Perm. And even more disappointing to see some of you dismissing the Air Perm out of hand. I speak from decades of experience, and extensive trials and tribulations. No -- the Air Perm is not "hogwash." It is the gold standard for perms. There is just no comparison.

Just so you know, this thread was created 3 years ago, and the original poster has been absent for the last two of those.
 
I speak from decades of experience, and extensive trials and tribulations.
-- the Air Perm is not "hogwash." It is the gold standard for perms. There is just no comparison.

Decades of experience as a client isn’t remotely comparable to the extensive training and experience gained by the professionally qualified members on this site. Anyone that understands how the chemicals in a perm work to temporarily change your hair structure wouldn’t be willing to risk sleeping with even a potentially minute amount of perm solution on their hair overnight.

It’s such an incredibly unsafe practice to undertake and quite simply, it would not be allowed in European hair salons due to stringent health and safety legislation.
 
What? The perm solution is thoroughly rinsed from the hair before the client leaves the salon. To my earlier point: I am suggesting that everyone would benefit from curiosity and a willingness to learn, rather than immediately shooting down something they don’t yet understand. Air perms are superior to standard perms. That is just a fact.
 
What? The perm solution is thoroughly rinsed from the hair before the client leaves the salon. To my earlier point: I am suggesting that everyone would benefit from curiosity and a willingness to learn, rather than immediately shooting down something they don’t yet understand. Air perms are superior to standard perms. That is just a fact.

OK, I’m going to explain again in simple terms how Perming works to change the shape of your hair from straight to curly and why an Air Perm is simply a silly marketing gimmick that doesn’t affect the quality of the curl or longevity and is therefore, an unnecessary waste of a busy hairdresser’s time. …Although I wonder how much you’re being over-charged for this nonsense?

For most Asian and European hair types, we use a single action perm and these are either acid, alkaline or exothermic perms. African hair usually requires a double action process.

Essentially the perm solution softens and breaks down the disulphide bonds that define the natural shape of the hair strand. Rods are used to re-shape the hair into a curl and the neutraliser resets the bonds, thereby fixing the new shape into place. Just like with ‘permanent’ hair colour, it’s not really permanent and normal hair washing will eventually cause the hair to revert to its natural state. Normal Washing and Heat styling break down the disulphides bonds. This is why Olaplex is recommended for chemically treated hair as it repairs damaged disulphide bonds.

Acid perm lotion is fairly gentle with a pH value of approximately 6 to 7, similar to hair in its normal state and contains Glyceryl monothioglycolate. The majority of perms offered these days are acid perms.

Alkaline perm lotions have a stronger pH value of approximately 9.5. They use ammonium thioglyocolate which can be more damaging if used on the wrong hair texture. Alkaline perm lotions are best suited for resistant hair types and break more of the disulphides bonds within the hair. Bulking detergents used in some cheap shampoos have a similar pH and that’s why we don’t advise clients to buy products such as Herbal Essences or Pantene shampoo.

Exothermic perms are self-heating. They have chemical activators that are added to the perm lotion which helps the cuticle layers of the hair shaft to open. Exothermic perms can be either acid or alkaline.

(Maybe consider requesting an Exothermic Alkaline perm if your previous perms aren’t working too well?)

IMPORTANT:
All perms need a neutraliser to complete the chemical change of the hair shape. It’s the process of oxidisation by adding oxygen to the hair using either hydrogen peroxide or sodium bromate that re-sets the disulphides bonds.

Hydrogen Peroxide has the chemical symbol H2O2 and is essentially water with an added oxygen molecule.

Normal Air that you breathe contains hydrogen and oxygen molecules as well as carbon dioxide, nitrogen, helium, etc.

Using a neutralising solution forces the oxidation process to work quickly to fix the hair, whilst leaving your hair exposed to the air will take much longer for it to neutralise and fix the hair, especially the hair closest to the rods, that has less exposure.

THE NEUTRALISATION PROCESS BY ITSELF CANNOT IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF THE FINAL RESULT. THAT IS ENTIRELY DEPENDENT ON THE CHOICE OF PERM SOLUTION USED AND THE SKILL OF THE HAIRDRESSER.
 
Thank you for offering so much of your knowledge as explanation.

I'm not a trained professional. I am just a consumer who has personally experienced the superior results I get from an air perm. There are, however, renowned professionals who speak to the superiority of the air perm. If you are not interested in my experience as a consumer, perhaps the opinions of other professionals will pique your interest.

In the Tressa Advanced Chemistry Book it states "the longer the perm air oxidizes the more stable the perm will be."

Paul Mitchell XO Perm recommends an "air oxidation period before neutralizing."

According to Rick Lesser, the Ft. Lauderdale hair and makeup artist, "The longer you can air neutralize the better. The down side to this is it takes 12 to 24 hours to complete in order to re-form the bonds to their new shape. The up side? A totally natural, lustrous curl lasting until it’s cut out."

Corinne Bertorelli, Product Testing Specialist for L'anza Research Internation, Inc. wrote in a 1994 letter, "First of all I want to tell you that I have been working quite a lot with air neutralizing my perms. It has been absolutely wonderful. The results are incredible and I can see why you are so excited about this technique."

"Those who are willing to go through the discomfort of wearing the rollers overnight, will have the most beautiful perm possible." ~quote attributed to Jheri Redding, founder of Nexxus and Redken.

I hope you find this information useful in understanding that "Air Perms" do offer superior results. I have experienced it first-hand. Everyone who meets me thinks my hair is naturally curly. It is not a gimmick. I only pay $130 for an air perm in the highly expensive Bay Area of California. It's not more expensive. It's just better. A LOT better.

Because I'm *just* a consumer, I have no need to understand the anatomy or the chemistry of it all. The proof is in the pudding. I've gotten A LOT of perms over the past 40 years, and as someone with extremely FINE, curl-resistant hair, I can tell you the air perm is a game changer.

My purpose in writing on this forum is to urge all of you professionals to learn this technique. It is very unsettling to know that if something were to happen to my current stylist, I might not be able to get an air perm anymore because no one else seems to know how to do them.

I hope I have offered enough research of my own, from professionals, to finally pique your interest in the elusive, fabulous, Air Perm.

Thank you.
 

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Bwahahahaha - this is one of the funniest posts I've followed
 
I hope I have offered enough research of my own, from professionals, to finally pique your interest in the elusive, fabulous, Air Perm.

:rolleyes: Reading advertising puff and posting unverified quotes does not constitute research.

Research in its most basic form requires you to collate large quantities of data from reputable source information. To carefully analyse and evaluate the data and only draw conclusions when you have carefully considered all the results.

To reiterate:

Your ‘Air’ perm is simply one small part of the whole perming process and relates to fixing the newly created bonds. If the perm solution applied hasnt broken enough bonds in the first place, you can Air neutralise ‘till the cows come home and it won’t make a scrap of difference.

What’s far more relevant is the type of perm solution applied. Acid or Alkaline.
 

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