Anyone heard of Gellifique gel polish?

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Hi Everyone,

Has anyone heard of Gellifique gel polish. It says its Hema free and I love their colors and so would my clients. If any of you have had experience with the 100% gel, could you please post? Thanks in advance
 
Hey, I use gellifique its really good. Great coverage, I went through one of their reps on instagram sketch nail design and he's been a dream to work with. I hate their website but I've found him really good to deal with.
 
Just looked at their website and would not touch it with a barge pole . The product is made in China and unless they have changed the rules over there means that it MUST be tested on animals :-(

**Our products are manufactured at a lab based in China with strict adherence to EU Cosmetic Product Regulation (No.1223/2009) and its amendments. Our lab specialises in the production of gel/acrylic-based products for the nail industry only. Our products are registered on the CPNP portal and are certified as required by law with MSDS/SDS and CPSR certification; the latter are completed by a lab here in the UK.
 
Just looked at their website and would not touch it with a barge pole . The product is made in China and unless they have changed the rules over there means that it MUST be tested on animals :-(

**Our products are manufactured at a lab based in China with strict adherence to EU Cosmetic Product Regulation (No.1223/2009) and its amendments. Our lab specialises in the production of gel/acrylic-based products for the nail industry only. Our products are registered on the CPNP portal and are certified as required by law with MSDS/SDS and CPSR certification; the latter are completed by a lab here in the UK.

Not true, they don’t sell in China. A product is only tested on animals of sold there.
 
Products are not tested by a lab in the UK or any country in Europe. All cosmetics sold in Europe do need a Cosmetic Safety Assessment, but this simply involves giving a Safety Data Sheet (or old style MSDS) to a consultant toxicologist, and them reading the ingredients to see that they are legal cosmetic ingredients.

They have no way of knowing if the SDS is honest i.e. if those ingredients are really used, if the amount stated are accurate or at high risk levels, if other illegal ingredients are also used and not stated. I have seen many examples of all three cases in gel polishes sold in the UK and EU that claim to have a CSA and are registered on CPNP. Chinese factories are smart enough to know what to write in order to get products sold in the EU. It is also perfectly possible for a brand to "doctor" the documents.

That means you have to buy on trust. That trust is earned if the owner of the brand has a already developed a strong reputation in the nail industry as a professional and is respected from their knowledge (skills is totally different). Or is a company that has a strong national or international reputation among highly respected pro NT.

Also, just as a comment. I am always suspicious of any company that :

a) doesn't state their full address on the website (this is a legal requirement)
b) doesn't say who the owners are and their history in the nail industry
c) has a website that is not compliant with GDPR data privacy laws. (either they don't care about regulations or are too poor to hire an expert to set this up on the website). All websites MUST ask you to agree to cookies and allow you to select which types of cookies you accept. That is the bare minimum of GDPR and there is a lot more that is really difficult to setup on a website - such as anonymising private data, being able to provide a complete list of all clients data and orders if requested.
 
As for HEMA-free, the most common replacement for HEMA is Hydroxypropyl Methacrylate, which is the UK's #2 allergen. It is also common for products from China to state an ingredient that is actually a group of ingredients. That means you don't actually know which ingredient that is from this group, also, it is illegal not to use the specific INCI chemical name in a SDS.

If someone is concerned to either avoid allergies or has a HEMA allergy already, the best choice is to use hypoallergenic products that don't contain HEMA or any other higher risk ingredient. Also, of course, to find out how their allergy occurred - how they managed to get uncured or under cured product or product dust on the skin so often over a long period, and to take steps to stop this. Otherwise, they will surely develop more allergies in the future.

www.saynotoallergies.today
 
Gellifiques new range states hypoallergenic neither of the chemicals are in them, they’re based in Edinburgh. If you do your research the facts are there.
 
Gellifiques new range states hypoallergenic neither of the chemicals are in them, they’re based in Edinburgh. If you do your research the facts are there.
Can you post a link to a page where it states the products are hypoallergenic please? I did look around but only see the HEMA free statement.

I'd also be interested to know which colourants are used to create the chameleon, magnetic and neon colours. To my knowledge (and that of our chemist), there are no legal colourants allowed in the EU that create these effects.
 
The website doesn’t comply with GDPR, there’s no company address on their website and they don’t manufacture their own lamp.

As someone with an allergy to gel nail products, I would be very wary of buying these products online and I recommend that any professional Nail Tech sticks with a professional brand that complies with the law, provides full transparency, support and training.
 
Can you post a link to a page where it states the products are hypoallergenic please? I did look around but only see the HEMA free statement.

I'd also be interested to know which colourants are used to create the chameleon, magnetic and neon colours. To my knowledge (and that of our chemist), there are no legal colourants allowed in the EU that create these effects.

Hi Bob Giblett, Developer of ikon.iq gel, I think it's sad that you feel you have to attack other brands to push your own. It's also funny that you have the time to spend writing these posts and making libel and slanderous comments instead of focusing on your own brand. If you have nothing nice to say. Don't say anything at all.

The website doesn’t comply with GDPR, there’s no company address on their website and they don’t manufacture their own lamp.

As someone with an allergy to gel nail products, I would be very wary of buying these products online and I recommend that any professional Nail Tech sticks with a professional brand that complies with the law, provides full transparency, support and training.

Can I ask what your allergy has to do with gdpr and company address?

Oh and what brands do you have allergies to?

Just looked at their website and would not touch it with a barge pole . The product is made in China and unless they have changed the rules over there means that it MUST be tested on animals :-(

**Our products are manufactured at a lab based in China with strict adherence to EU Cosmetic Product Regulation (No.1223/2009) and its amendments. Our lab specialises in the production of gel/acrylic-based products for the nail industry only. Our products are registered on the CPNP portal and are certified as required by law with MSDS/SDS and CPSR certification; the latter are completed by a lab here in the UK.

So you didn't read the bit that says about eu regulations then lol clearly nothing they would say will change your mind about products in China so you might as well sell most the things in your home[/QUOTE]
 
So you didn't read the bit that says about eu regulations then lol clearly nothing they would say will change your mind about products in China so you might as well sell most the things in your home
As your profile shows you are only qualified in skin care perhaps you should be more respectful of those who have been in the nail industry a very long time with a high level of qualification and experience?
 
As your profile shows you are only qualified in skin care perhaps you should be more respectful of those who have been in the nail industry a very long time with a high level of qualification and experience?
Sorry must have missed that box, I am also a nail tech so I know plenty about the industry. No one knows exactly what level of qualifications and experience anyone has especially online where anyone can say anything about themselves. Pinch of salt comes to mind. Everyone seems to be scare mongering, bad mouthing and causing more damage than they do trying to do good so people should just get on with what they are doing instead of pretending they are some kind of scientist. A nail tech is a nail tech, there's only so much we learn about the industry and on top of that you're then reliant on your trainer also being top in their field and non bias as we are only as good as our teachers. Everyone is affiliated some way to something so do your research into what you want to use, make a personal decision because what works for you might not be right for someone else, don't slag people or brands off and then the world would be a much happier place
 
So you didn't read the bit that says about eu regulations then lol clearly nothing they would say will change your mind about products in China so you might as well sell most the things in your home


Not complying with GDPR on a website IS a breach of EU regulations.
If they‘re casually lying about that, then you have to ask yourself how stringent are their checks for ensuring safety and compliance with other regulations? There’s no address on their website either so they could actually be based in Nigeria or Peru for all we know?

To answer your question, I’m not allergic to brands just specific ingredients so I like to be 100% certain that the Brands I use are truthful about their ingredients and are therefore safe for me to use. So to ensure that both my clients and I are not put at unnecessary risk, I’d rather stick with brands that are sold in bricks and mortar shops (ideally only to the professionally qualified), than those only sold online.

I don’t understand why you are taking various comments from posters so personally?
No-one is saying that you can’t continue to use these products if you really want to.
 
Not complying with GDPR on a website IS a breach of EU regulations.
If they‘re casually lying about that, then you have to ask yourself how stringent are their checks for ensuring safety and compliance with other regulations? There’s no address on their website either so they could actually be based in Nigeria or Peru for all we know?

To answer your question, I’m not allergic to brands just specific ingredients so I like to be 100% certain that the Brands I use are truthful about their ingredients and are therefore safe for me to use. So to ensure that both my clients and I are not put at unnecessary risk, I’d rather stick with brands that are sold in bricks and mortar shops (ideally only to the professionally qualified), than those only sold online.

I don’t understand why you are taking various comments from posters so personally?
No-one is saying that you can’t continue to use these products if you really want to.
I had a look and found their address in the terms and conditions section and they are based in Edinburgh. I don't think anyone is lying about anything? They are a fairly new company it seems so they probably have lots of things going on that us normal people don't realise like with any newish business, things move so quickly and if you're a small business things take time don't they? They look like they are doing well and have a good following. I just can't stand all this brand bashing that I'm seeing everywhere full of trolls and nasty comments. Our industry was once a lovely one and now its one big bitch fest. They also have their sds sheets available on their website too I think it was in the about us section so you can see exactly what's in the products and they state that they are 100% pro only. At the end of the day you have to use your own judgment over anything in life. Brands like Johnson's have been linked to cancer... this is a huuuge company one that millions of people trust and look what they are being accused of so we can't tarnish everything with hearsay. I just looked at cnd, there's no info on products available on their website or sds sheets no addresses or personal info nor on Jessica nails apart from a local trainer and in my opinion nor should there be lol some of that stuff is confidential to them and as nail techs or whoever we wouldn't even know what we were looking at anyway... that bob person works for a rival brand so whatever he says is completely bias and it's very unprofessional to be slating another brand in a public forum.
 
There are laws and regulations that are designed to keep the public safe and to protect data privacy. Presumably skincarejunkie doesn't agree that these should exist or that some companies can ignore them?

What about the many excellent brands in the UK who do? Who paid experts so that they were legal and compliant. Who refuse to use illegal ingredients and accept the loss of sales that would bring?

This industry is in such a mess and allergies are at epidemic levels because this behaviour is tolerated by people who drag this industry down.
 
SDS information for all CND products can be found on their cnd.com website.
Here is the link for anyone who wishes to research their products.
https://cnd.com/resources/sds
 
There are laws and regulations that are designed to keep the public safe and to protect data privacy. Presumably skincarejunkie doesn't agree that these should exist or that some companies can ignore them?

What about the many excellent brands in the UK who do? Who paid experts so that they were legal and compliant. Who refuse to use illegal ingredients and accept the loss of sales that would bring?

This industry is in such a mess and allergies are at epidemic levels because this behaviour is tolerated by people who drag this industry down.
Ok so in your opinion what should every company including cnd, opi, gelish etc etc have in plain site and easy to find on their website?

There are laws and regulations that are designed to keep the public safe and to protect data privacy. Presumably skincarejunkie doesn't agree that these should exist or that some companies can ignore them?

What about the many excellent brands in the UK who do? Who paid experts so that they were legal and compliant. Who refuse to use illegal ingredients and accept the loss of sales that would bring?

This industry is in such a mess and allergies are at epidemic levels because this behaviour is tolerated by people who drag this industry down.
And I know you mentioned companies being able to doctor certain results etc, what's stopping any company from doing this even your own? And how would the general public even know?


so just to show you I have attached a screen shot of the disclaimer from Jessica, a well established brand as we know that's been trading for many years. I would like to highlight the fact that they state that they "believe" that the data is accurate and is not to be taken as a warranty or representation for which they assume any legal responsibility lol so even the bigger companies cannot 100% guarantee the accuracy of their documents so please don't jump on your high horse about China or smaller companies when the bigger well established brands can't even guarantee or won't take responsibility if they are found to be incorrect.
And for your info I got an allergy to gels after having used opi products so really no brand is ever 100% perfect no matter how well known or "legit" they are.
 

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And for your info I got an allergy to gels after having used opi products so really no brand is ever 100% perfect no matter how well known or "legit" they are.

Again for clarity.
If you had an allergic reaction, it’s not the brand you’re allergic to but an ingredient or ingredients within the product. I would expect a professional nail tech to take these matters very seriously, ensuring they discover what ingredient they are allergic to and that the products they are using on their clients are safe and fully compliant with the relevant laws.

If you’d suffered a serious reaction, I’d hope you wouldn’t be so blasé about safety.
 
Some interesting questions skincarejunkie, so I will try my best to answer these. I am also sorry to learn that you developed an allergy to nail product ingredients.


Ok so in your opinion what should every company including cnd, opi, gelish etc etc have in plain site and easy to find on their website?

Not only my opinion, it is law:
https://www.mitsgriffin.com/is-your-website-legal/
And I know you mentioned companies being able to doctor certain results etc, what's stopping any company from doing this even your own? And how would the general public even know?

There is nothing to stop this happening and mostly no-one would know. However, if a product was later believed to have caused health issues, Trading Standards could have the product analysed. If the ingredients did not match the SDS, then any penalty would most probably be higher. Also because the Directors or Owner had not demonstrated "due diligence" they could also become personally liable.

so just to show you I have attached a screen shot of the disclaimer from Jessica
Adding disclaimers is standard practice in many industries and situations. However, the question would be if a Court accepts "a mistake" as a genuine human error or sees it as a deliberate attempt to sell illegal products. It would be strange, would it not, if the only error on the SDS was that an illegal ingredient was not listed, or the amount of one of the few controlled ingredients in the regulations, had been massively exceeded (i.e. instead of up to 30% HEMA, over 50% HEMA was discovered).

Yes, it is possible to develop allergies with all artificial nail products, even very low risk hypoallergenic products. But products developed in the EU and USA are designed to minimise this risk. So then allergies from these products usually occur because the products are not used as directed by the manufacturer, for example the NT didn't wear gloves, have adequate ventilation (means a professional dust/vapour filter system or an extraction system that vents air outside), or didn't use the UV lamp recommended by the brand (so product and dust was under cured). Often this is because the NT was not educated by the nail school about this.
 

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