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Today I did a bridal make up trial with airbrush make up. The bride has a skin issue and started getting acne a few months ago which has left scarring and some nasty looking blemishes. She has been given medication which she has been taking for two months but this has really dried her skin out, on top of which she has been told to use an oil free moisturiser which clearly isn't helping. I started by applying her eye make up which took some time as it just didn't seem to want to go on nicely and because her skin has become dry her eyelids have gone crinkly so it wasn't easy getting a set line with my mac teknokohl. The shimmer eyeshadow I used on the inside of her eyes didn't want to stay put and the blending took some work! I then applied cluster lashes and the eyes seemed to pick up which I was pleased about. I moved on to the airbrush make up but no matter how hard I tried I just could not get it to completely cover a recent blemish on her left cheek! I felt awkward with the application anyway because she had a tan last night but didn't have any put on her face, so I was colour matching to her body and I felt like I was putting loads and loads on and not getting to the right result. I showed her and straight away she said there wasn't enough coverage, she wanted more coverage and more blush (which you'll see from the photo is probably required) but how do I get the coverage she wants without caking her in the stuff?? We sat and had a chat afterwards and she understood that the problems with her skin were causing some issues with the make up. I felt really bad about it so I offered another trial free of charge (which I have already been told off for!!).....I've attached a picture, feedback greatly appreciated as usual, please be nice though, feeling a bit sensitive! :cry:
 

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Sorry I'm not experienced or knowledgeable in the make-up area but I think this looks really nice, and for someone with skin problems it looks flawless from the pic!
 

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Thank you! If I'm honest, I think it looks pretty nice in the pic but I was worried when I was doing it as it was being done in daylight by the window so you can see everything and did feel it was a tad heavy but you can barely see any issues in the photos I have!! You can just see the issue I was talking about on her left cheek but she wasn't completely happy! She liked the eyes but wanted the lighter colour to be lighter so there was more definition but the shimmer colour just wouldn't stay like I wanted it to. In general though she wanted more coverage, she was off to someone elses wedding this afternoon and she basically said that she would put more make up on before she goes!! She had a trial with another lady before which she wasn't happy with and she did say she was much happier with what I have done but I'm just not sure how to give her what she wants...............
 

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I think it looks really nice!!!

Dinair do a paramedical foundation that is full coverage - there are instructions on the website I think (or possibly on my DVD that I got with the airbrush... think all the stuff on there is on the website tho) for covering blemishes by short, sharp blasts close to the skin, then going over the whole face with a light mist as you would normally. Might be worth a try? Which airbrush makeup do you normally use?

Alternatively, you could try the Vichy Dermablend range which is designed to cover scars, birth marks and tattoos. Lisa Eldridge has an acne tutorial on YouTube where she uses the Vichy Dermablend products and they do seem to give good coverage for stubborn blemishes, although I have never used them myself.

I have problem skin and the best concealer I've ever used is Clinique Advanced which you can't buy in the UK any more - but it's available in the US so if you can buy it anywhere online or get someone to pick some up for you if you know anyone who lives there or is going there then it is my all-time favourite concealer, it covers everything.
 

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Maybe if she had a few facials before her next trial/wedding it will help settle her skin for a more normal base, that way it will be easier to do what you're trying to do and then maybe she will be happy with results? Or maybe she is really fussy, or likes the caked look. That looks really lovely and natural, I prefer my make up like that do wouldn't dream of applying any more on top!
 

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She says facials are out because she has sensitive skin and the products cause her problems! I've told her to speak with her doctor to see if she can switch to a moisturiser for dry skin for the time being and to drink plenty of water! Hopefully that will help!

Thanks for the info on dinair, I use airbase. I did the short sharp pulses , applied in the lightest colour to tone down the redness and then covered all with with the colour we matched for her but to ensure it didn't look obvious I started to blend and then the colour came off! I wondered later if I should have powdered in between each layer as I remembered them telling us to do that for tattoo coverage? I will have a look at those recommendations though and maybe email airbase and see if they can advise me on what I've done wrong, although they will tell me that you can only get 95% coverage.....which I have told her!

Thanks ladies xxx
 

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Hi, I use airbase too and from the picture and given the skin condition you describe, you've done a fab job - it didn't sound an easy trial!

Two things you could try - I appreciate she has to use a special moisturiser as her regular one, but for the purpose of the make up application, can she use a different one? Airbase will often sit better on skin that is a little bit dewy and will give you better coverage. The other thing you could try for the blemish that you struggled to cover is use their number two blush on it first (only on the blemished area) then spray the foundation on top as normal - this process can also be used for dark rings round the eyes.

If you're still struggling, give Moira at Airbase in Nottingham a call - they're so helpful there and she is great with ideas and helpful tips.

Don't beat yourself up though, like I said, it was a difficult task and she looks lovely in the pic, xx
 

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darling her make up looks flawless and if she has problem skin she is probly pleased with the result
are you sure this is just not you being to hard in yourself, the girl probly wanted extra bronzed as she wanted the spray tan look on her face..... but without the spray ran itself in her skin.

you done a fan Jon and you can't beat spray on foundation for brides as it lasts all day...... I use airbase and brides love it
 

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Wow, she looks stunning, especially her brows! Good job with the make up! Xx
 

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Some medications used for ache restrict the usage of cosmetic astringents for during and up to 6 months after the course has been completed.

They also do leave the skin very dry and sensitive.

I specialise in camouflage makeup and do not rate airbrush camouflage application for the coverage of scaring .

Clients with any type of scaring need a traditional camouflage makeup application done by hand by a professional using derma blend, veil or grimas etc to get a flawless natural coverage.
 

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Some medications used for ache restrict the usage of cosmetic astringents for during and up to 6 months after the course has been completed.

They also do leave the skin very dry and sensitive.

I specialise in camouflage makeup and do not rate airbrush camouflage application for the coverage of scaring .

Clients with any type of scaring need a traditional camouflage makeup application done by hand by a professional using derma blend, veil or grimas etc to get a flawless natural coverage.
What's classed as a cosmetic astringent?
 

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Makeup, cleanser, moisturiser etc

What is the name of the medication she is on?
 

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Thanks everyone for the feedback and suggestions they're a great help and have given me some ideas of what to try next. Feel much better now :D
 

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Makeup, cleanser, moisturiser etc

What is the name of the medication she is on?
I don't know what it's called but she's still wearing her own make up, quite heavily too to hide the scars and her blemishes. She thinks that the acne is stress related as she started her own business towards the end of last year. She should be contacting her doctor re the moisturiser, she is currently using free derm oil free moisturiser which isn't doing much at all. I really do feel for her as it seems that whilst the medication is tackling one skin problem it is causing another skin problem!!

Do you know if there's anything that she can do to help with the dryness and sensitivity or does it depend on the specific medication?
 

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Some medications used for ache restrict the usage of cosmetic astringents for during and up to 6 months after the course has been completed.

They also do leave the skin very dry and sensitive.

I specialise in camouflage makeup and do not rate airbrush camouflage application for the coverage of scaring .

Clients with any type of scaring need a traditional camouflage makeup application done by hand by a professional using derma blend, veil or grimas etc to get a flawless natural coverage.
What about using camouflage make up on the scar areas and then using airbrush to balance the whole look?
 

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It depends on the medication she is on as different types of medications for ache has different restrictions on them I.e. what skins care products you can use or if you can wear makeup, how long after stopping the medication you can start using makeup and cosmetic astringents etc

You need to find out she is taking, this should be done in the initial consult.

You may need to consider asking for a doctors referral if you are unsure that the meds she is taking is safe to use alongside cosmetics

Professional camouflage makeup does not mix well with oil based foundations as the oil degrayeds the camouflage makeup.

Scaring can very difulcult to cover useless you are trianed in how to cover them properly using special techniques

Your client should be limiting her making usage as this is prob making the situations wore by plastering it on
 
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Obviously we talked through her skin problems and she told me that she was on medication but I didn't think to ask what the medication was called as it's not something I would know a great deal about. Also this is my first make up booking and my first application to anyone with this kind of skin issue so it's all a learning curve for me, I will find out from her and and research in to it.

She wasn't sure if she had been told to use an oil free moisturiser or not and she did say that even before the skin issues she is not the sort of person to leave the house without any make up on, so either she has made sure that she can (I would hope that her Doctor would have discussed with her and prescribed a medication that she can wear make up with!!) or she is ignoring the advice!

As you can see from the photo the airbrush covered the scars from the acne, it was the fresh blemishes that I had the most trouble with but others have given me some hints and tips to try out and I will see what I can do. If I really can't get the coverage that she will feel confident with then I will have to be honest and send her in the direction of a camouflage make up artist.
 

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On a slightly different note, she wanted the lighter shadow to be lighter and give more definition. The eyeshadow I used was a baked eyeshadow, if I use this wet, will it give a more definite colour contrast? If not, would some mac pigment do the job nicely? xxx
 

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