Colour correction - specialist only?

[kaye74]

4ndi
I absolutely agree!
I've only just started frequenting sg again after about 6 months break over the Xmas period etc,
And I'm shocked at how much it's changed!
It seems to be full of students who really do seem to be fearless
This forum used to be for professionals, it's now more like a training forum,
I think others feel the same, as I'd met 2 friends on here, very experienced hairdressers, and they don't come on here anymore for the same reason

Here here ! i couldnt agree more ! . im not on here as much as i was now :-( especially as some have been banned :-( .

 

[ruberio]

Here here ! i couldnt agree more ! . im not on here as much as i was now :-( especially as some have been banned :-( .

i wholeheartedly agree with this statement, this site was a great help to me before i started training and i'm shocked and saddened by how much it has changed recently. as a student myself i have continually been horrified and appalled by the 'just slap it on and see what happens' brigade that appear to have taken over, surely the ethos of salon geek is PROFESSIONAL advice, feedback and support for PROFESSIONALS? i had a wee break from this site to concentrate on my final assessments ( literally only a few weeks of a break!) and the hair forum is almost unrecognisable, well respected and extremely knowledgeable members have been banned and the threads are clogged up with DIY advice, i for one feel sorry for anyone seeking genuine pro advice or feedback, there is a wealth of knowledge, experience and advice ( that was given freely might i add) that is now sadly lost in favour of a 'new breed'.
i would never give advice unless i was 100% sure of it, based on personal experience or tried and well tested methods, especially colour corrections which are unpredictable at the best of times...there is a good reason why we have strand tests and imcompatibility tests! i have only undertaken them at college with experienced stylists or tutors on hand, i certainly wouldn't attempt them on my own at someones home. we have had an influx of corrections at college, some DIY stripping and some done by pro's, the vast majority of these clients have came in with unrealistic expectations of going from XXL Black to platinum blonde in one step, this just isn't going to happen! colour corrections are definitely best left in the hands of an experienced, qualified specialist professional who has the knowledge and tools at hand to perform a safe and realistic service for the client

 

[AmberExt]

Here here ! i couldnt agree more ! . im not on here as much as i was now :-( especially as some have been banned :-( .

Kaye, and others who have said the same thing, not answering questions is not going to improve things thou is it? There were lots of veteran posters around 2-3 months ago that stopped replying when it got silly and a few are now popping back,

The comments that there are no-little experieced repliers now 2 have gone is so disrespectful to kaye, penners, nic, nickyclifford, the den, piercednige, persianista, tomme etc etc. I hope you all keep answering questions and support each other with simple agreements to reinforce the correct approach,

At the end of the day its the ops decision to weed out the right answer ;-)



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[naturalnails]

Can we please get back to the question in hand and stop harping back to what has gone on in the past.

 

[Tomme]

This thread goes back to the thread about colour being a science.
Corrections aren't like painting a wall were enough coats of the desired colour will make it so. There is a science to go with it as well as art to create the exact colours needed to get that exact result not a near as damn it result.
I've turned down clients in the past after explaining what is possible and they expect more, it's harder to explain that correction is art and science mixed to clients than it should be to another hairdresser.

 

[Flipyoburgerz]

I don't like this whole deluded idea have when fixing colour or changing it massively (Don't get me started on people who think they can do colour correction themselves at home, with no training in colour.) think that you can simply walk into a salon and walk out with a major change. (Okay in some small cases its possible, I honesty think that home colouring products was the worst idea ever.

 

[Hairbyjessmac]

Iv learnt first hand after being hairdressing 8 years that you can get quite complacent and lazy in a salon, you have others around you to get opinions and reassurance p, I'm now mobile and have always been super confident and cautious at the same time, I take pride in my work and never promise people the earth...however after recently having a colour disaster(I know I keep mentioning it but it made me feel sick!) I'm going to be looking for a colour correction course to improve my skills and knowledge in this industry which I love so much so I think leave it to specialists or someone willing to keep improving their skills to help
I carry basics+the earth in my boot...if not every colour then certain colours to mix together to make another crazy boot! X

 

[NiCshairstudio]

This thread goes back to the thread about colour being a science.
Corrections aren't like painting a wall were enough coats of the desired colour will make it so. There is a science to go with it as well as art to create the exact colours needed to get that exact result not a near as damn it result.
I've turned down clients in the past after explaining what is possible and they expect more, it's harder to explain that correction is art and science mixed to clients than it should be to another hairdresser.

Love that, most hairdressers to simplify explanations to jo bloggs will say its like painting.... But fail to explain its lie mixing paints at the very basics! This is why people think its easy the come to pay us for it to be corrected.

To the op, I think colour correction is specialist with additional training to a point but most of all experience in colouring.you could be just trained, do you advanced and do 5 colour correction courses, and never touch a genuine colour correction during this time, then one comes in, I personally think someone with more years colouring experience and confident colourist, with an in depth knowledge of their colour house will be able to achieve a closer desired result with better hair condition at the end than the newly qualified multi colour correction certificate holder.

Not speaking down on people who do this btw, as I have multiple colouring courses and colour correction courses under my belt, but only over the past few years would I say my confidence has soared, but as said above, I have got a name for myself with colour corrections, as word of mouth most of my new customers are colour corrections, but I love doing them! Main thing is to be honest with your customer and not over promise though.

 

[amx]

I am a bit new to this salon geek thing, but I feel with colour correction or anything hairwise that youtube is the absolute bane of my life, ive had recently as its coming up to summer clients wanting to go blonder or lighter, with their friends doing their own at home colour correction with advice and guidence off of youtube how to do videos.

I personally think at the end of the day if you don't know or are not confident enough refer them to someone who does know and has trained and has the knowlegde.