Compatability of different gels

[Roxie20]

Would just like to know if many of you guys mix various gel systems together successfully?

I am at the moment using 3 different sytems... LCN, Bio Sculpture and
Acrygel all of which have as far as I am concerned have different pros and cons.

When I have carried out my training all of the companies advise you not to mix products, is this just to encourage us to buy just that companies products or is there any proven evidence that they will not be compatable????

I have mixed various products in the past and so far don't appear to have had a problem but would be really interested in other peoples opinions?

 

[minetta]

wow,i'm glad i'm not the only one doing that,i have been using IBD's bonder with nouveau gel and hawley products with rejuvi gels,and i find the mixing up to work better.take care.

 

[Debbies Gellies]

Hi Caroline, I sometimes use two different gels. I may make a Calgel nail and then put Bio colour on top. It is advisable to cure the first gel and clean off the sticky layer and buff it before applying a different brand tho. that way it is not mixing.

LCN cleaner is too strong for soak off gels tho. It will make them dull and tacky. I always use the same brand of cleaner for the gel.

Its the same as doing and infil on a client who has nails on that were applied in a different salon iykwim.

 

[geeg]

Would just like to know if many of you guys mix various gel systems together successfully?

I am at the moment using 3 different sytems... LCN, Bio Sculpture and
Acrygel all of which have as far as I am concerned have different pros and cons.

When I have carried out my training all of the companies advise you not to mix products, is this just to encourage us to buy just that companies products or is there any proven evidence that they will not be compatable????

I have mixed various products in the past and so far don't appear to have had a problem but would be really interested in other peoples opinions?

I know many of you do it ... and I know many of you think it is OK to do it ... but I can tell you that in controlled laboratory experiments done in the CND labs, it has been factually proved, and categorically (Both with Liquid & Powder as well as Brisa Gels) that working within your system gives a result both for adhesion and longevity that outlasts any nail made using products from different systems. YOU will not be able to measure the differences yourself and you may not know that problems you may be experiencing are due to what YOU are causing by trying to integrate different products, but it is happening all the same.

So to answer your question, there is proven and documented evidence that systems work more efficiently, and it is not just a ploy to encourage product loyalty. Systems benefit you and your clients and it must also be remembered that mixing different brands would also negate any insurance claim made against a company if the occasion arose. Companies will only back a technician in a claim IF she/he is working within the product system. A rather important point, I think.

Its the same as doing and infil on a client who has nails on that were applied in a different salon iykwim.

Yes, and don't we always warn such a client that we cannot guarantee the result? We tell them that there may be a colour change as well as no guarantee on the lasting ability of the enhancment?

Proof if proof were needed that neither the beauty or the durability or the adhesion will be as good as if the enhancement were done using a system.

 

[pazzy]

I have mixed soak off gels and have been delighted with the results (sometimes its purely experimental and a trial solution to a particular clients needs)

but for me soak off and buff off gels DO NOT work well together.

Putting a buff off over a soak off - leads to pocket lifting.

Soak off over buff off has been more successful than vise versa but unecessary.

 

[geeg]

I have mixed soak off gels and have been delighted with the results (sometimes its purely experimental and a trial solution to a particular clients needs)

but for me soak off and buff off gels DO NOT work well together.

Putting a buff off over a soak off - leads to pocket lifting.

Soak off over buff off has been more successful than vise versa but unecessary.

As I say, YOU may be delighted, but that does not mean that the results cannot be measured and proved to be better within a system; they have been and are.

If feel you have to add strength to a soak off gel (then the soak off gel is not doing the job for you) by adding a buff off gel, then why not just use a buff off gel system in the first place? To me it makes no sense to do otherwise and you are taking chances whether you can personally see it or not. I know plenty of people who do it, I personally do not think it outweighs the benefit or a system that has been designed to function together.

 

[Nataliya]

I used to mix and match all over the place, it was like I wanted to use evrything at the same time. I thought at the time it was great until more and more clients were complaining.

You choose a system and you stick to it - totally agree with Gigi)))