Conversion course for IBD gels?

[tilly01]

Hi geeks,

I've just done my training with Salon Systems products. On our course we were told how to remove gels and to do it at home at the end of or week. However, it took me 2 hours!

I've since discovered that you can get 'hard gels' and 'soft gels' (Salon Systems being hard) and I'm so worried that it's gonna take me an absolute age to do a removal on a client and am looking into converting to a system which uses a soak off gel. (I maybe jumping the gun a bit as I haven't done a removal on a client yet - my only set of gels I have done on my sis-in-law who is currently on hols with them. Will 'whip' them off when she gets back to see!).

I've heard that IBD do a soak off gel system and I'm wondering if I have to do a conversion course with IBD, or can I just buy the products and get going?

I am totally aware that each company likes the tech to be trained in their system so you can give the best finished results to your clients, which I am all for for sure, but I haven't seen any info on conversion courses for IBD so wondered if they exist? Does anyone know any details?

Also, I have been told that the UV lamp one uses is specific to a specific system? I have a Salon System lamp (9 watt) which is what our educator recommended. Would I have to buy a new lamp if I changed to IBD? and if I changed again in the future - would that be another new lamp? This is an expensive business until you find your feet and are happy with the products you're using! But I suppose - no pain no gain! Maybe a winning lotto ticket is around the corner! :lol:

Sorry this is long winded.

p.s. Can I just say that I've just seen a thread on hear about the nail and beauty show at Olympia and got all excited, thinking that I would love to go and see what they're all about. Then realised it's the day our baby is due and can't travel that far on my own. I'm gutted! :irked:

 

[yeahyeah]

yes there are "hard" and "soft" gels, hard gels being traditional file off gel and "soft" gels referring to soak-off gels. offering soak off gel only isnt the best idea. its great to have as an option, but you'll need a hard gel for sculpting extensions unless youre trained in l&p as well. dont worry though, it shouldnt take 2 hours to remove a full set, why dont you run us through your method for removal and we can give you some insight as to what you might need to do differently.
as for your question about the uv lights; yes, you will need a new light for each gel system. if you do end up needing more than one its not neccessarily uneconomical as they will pay for themselves very quickly, but it is quite impractical to have 2 dozen uv lamps laying around and all that product to sort through its ok to use one lamp to cure your trials if youve got samples of different systems, just dont expect them to last, they might not cure properly but you can at least get a feel for the product before you commit to a system and invest in it.
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[tilly01]

HI yeahyeah, thanks for the advice. So far I have only done the one set of gel removals (I'm waiting for my sis-in-law to come back from hols so I can take hers off and apply a new set) She's my ginuea pig at the mo and I just hope her nails have been ok whilst she's been away!

I've produced some step-by-step revision cards that I can have next to me whilst carrying out treatment. The steps I have taken from our manuals given by or edcator. For hard gel removal…

• Sanitise
• Cut excess nail length
• File overlay to a thin laye
•*Buff remaining gel
• Cuticle oil to skin
• Wrap tips in cotton wool soaked in acetone, cover in foils. Leave for 10 mins
• Unwrap and cuticle hoof excess
• Wash and dry hands
• Cuticle oil and buff

Done.

I'm hoping this procedure is correct and look forward to hearing any helpful hints you may have for me!

Cheers

 

[yeahyeah]

no problem it sounds lile you have a good start but theres a few things i do differently. first i wouldnt cut the extension free edge, buff off gel is hard and this could be painful or cause it to crack. file down the excess length, this is very quick with an efile. then to debulk the enhancement start with a low/medium grit file (100 to 180). this also goes very quickly with an efile and a carbide bit, a few quick zips over the surface is all it will take. remove the apex and then the entire enhancement about 75% overall. then graduate to a higher grit (like 240) as you get closer to the natural nail. debulk another 50% or so, blending any areas that need it and following the contour of the natural nail. then use a buffer to smooth out file ridges. its perfectly accepable to leave this thin layer of gel on the nail, it will grow off eventually but theres no need to soak in acetone, it wont do any good, acetone wont disolve buff off gel. at this you can polish ect and apply cuticle oil. the process overall takes me about 30 minutes.
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