Lordy I hate it when people multi quote replies like this, but I suppose I need to in order to my response on track. Ill just focus on the points that I think need to be addressed.
As such I use it a lot, its very user friendly and it compliments Salongeek well. Jaymies intentions were never to cull salongeek and nor are mine.
So far there have been few 'compliments'. Mainly a lot of ugliness and activity that is pretty embarrassing actually.
I have been in the industry 14 years and even I got duped by paying thousands for CND training only to find out my certificates are useless. Something that knocked my confidence totally with nails and with Creative themselves. I am not the only nail technician conned by people falsely representing themselves as CND education centres neither so you can see why others get easily misled too.
Getting conned in this industry unfortunately can happen (just like any industry). This I suppose is why so many people get so emotional over people coming on asking about correspondence courses or cheap 2 day courses. Because they care. Because of our policies and community here, I guarantee you wouldn't have gone on a fake CND course had you looked here first. I doubt that will be true of other sites that simply wouldn't know.
All forums have their flaws, but thats why there is so many to choose from. If facebook & myspace merged it would be super.
That would be hell. And be all the reason I would ever need not to return to Facebook
Salontweets event section is a good idea because people can find a course in there area which isn't something I have seen here and hopefully will help newbies find decent trainers and courses rather than ebay courses for a fiver. Hopefully your feedback on these trainers will give an oversight to the newbie about how good the training is and what the after care is like.
Its always great when its in theory or in incubation. But like many things in life, bad apples spoil the lot. Wait until it becomes the spam point these things generally do. It'll kind of suck if someone uses it to book onto a fake course like you did (at least I would think it sucks). Ideas are great, we got em by the bucket load. But past experience has taught us to measure twice and cut once.
Although from a distributors point of view this site will remain loyal toward those that advertise frequently and therefore turn a blind eye to one distributor and slam another one down for it which is not fair, especially when that same company is putting others down.
This is a complete load of tosh and shows very little understanding of the work that goes into managing this site. To be totally honest, I hate the advertising and its far more work to manage than the site ever earns from it.
As several advertisers will attest to... placing an ad here buys you zilch in any privilege what-so-ever. In fact, some of the 'strongest'
discussions (if you can call them that) have been member advertisers.
Advertising is here (at a stupidly small price) as a service to the community as it allows distributors to legitimately communicate sales and event information without using manipulation to do it. Users can ignore ads easily and not have to wade through manipulated threads to get their information.
I agree I have had my hands slapped a few times, like a lot of people on here, and thats mainly because I followed what other people were openly doing and getting away with and I was the one that got slammed for it.
Sorry, I just had to comment that this is silly and sounds like something my son would say if he was grounded for doing something wrong "
but he did it first!"
As far as expelling distributors and trainers from any forum is cutting off a crucial line of help and advise, often unbiased to help the therapist in question. We were not all distributors for life, many of us have come from varied backgrounds and have various methods tried and tested we can put on the table and hopefully we form a valued part of the community.
No one has 'cut off' any distributor. Hell, I am a distributor. Does being a distributor mean you cannot add value to the community unless you get a slae in return? What we don't allow is for the community to be used as cash cows. If that sucks for you, then it sucks for you. Sorry.
I do feel some people here do try to bring the worst out in people and try to condescend other peoples comments to manipulate a topic to there way of thinking. There are also many unprofessional comments completely unrelated to the beauty industry which this forum is devoted for.
I'm not sure what you mean about people bringing out the worst in other people. If a post can easily turn you into Mrs. Hyde, I think there are other issues there. Sure, people can read into messages (and do all the time) which can get an emotional response, but the adult way of dealing with that is through the countless methods we have through the site of letting the mod team know there is a problem.
If the unprofessional comments thing is about the Chit-Chat forum, you're right. But that is part of a community (like minded people sharing like minded things). At least far more than a music player
Obviously I am not going to back stab my sister, but I will ask her to address some of the comments on the other site as they are not necessary. hopefully both sites will work fine in harmony together.
It concerns me greatly that this has to actually be asked of someone.
Hopefully all gaps have been filled by both sites.
What gaps were those again? Gaps in common courtesy were all I noticed.
As you see I am not a moderator over there - don't want to be, but I know Jaymie needs some to keep some people in line.
I am sorry to hear that considering the serious lack of activity there. If you are already having problems 'keeping people in line' this early in the game... well... best of luck
And I know the e-mails on the PM system all get read and monitored from the last time I made a mistake, trying to do someone a favour and got me in trouble, so I wouldn't do it again! Also Jaymie does not use salon geek cause she got bullied off here so I doubt (and sincerely hope) that she does not spam on here.
Woah there tiger! We do not read and monitor PM's here. We do however have a handy 'Report PM' button that is there for users to notify the team of spam and such. Just another 'outdated' tool to enforce our stringent overbearing policies I suppose.
As to the 'Bullied off' comment... I can't really comment myself as I have no clue what you are talking about. However from your post, I can put 2 and 2 together to assume it went something like:
Jaymie: I want to do beauty. Can anyone recommend a correspondence course
Geeks: Thats crazy you need to do it in person.
I am sure both sides got heated over this discussion and you yourself said these course are crap.
Now, the sulky thing would be to go off and make you're own Geek site so that you can get the response you are after.
Or the adult thing would be to notify the team so we can send people to the naughty step for awhile.
Although I am surprised that some geeks are against the adverts yet they are all over this site and have uncontrolled content. This site is a money spinner from the banner ads, google adwords and subscriptions, which other sites such as tanprofessionals (NOT OWNED BY ME), Healthypages.net (ALSO NOT OWNED BY ME), handbag.com (NOT OWNED BY ME), and main ones such as Facebook, Myspace etc are about.
I snipped some of the rambling out of this above quote for brevity. But must say I have no clue what you're on about. Uncontrolled content? If you mean the Google ads, then thats controlled by Google (though I can ensure certain ads do not appear). As far as a money spinner, you're right. I could live on baked beans for the rest of my life on what we pull in here.
I am sure I could really work at turning it into a 'money spinner' (i.e. sell off email addresses, list rent, etc...) but I would think if anyone who spent 2 minutes on this site could gather... it clearly isn't something I would do.
Now, if I were just using the $10 a month shared hosting option that you can get with many *hrm* some sites... that would be great. But sadly I invest in arguably the best dedicated, managed servers to host this site. The activity in 10 minutes would crush a shared hosting provider.
So. Here we are. End of the dreaded post dissection (did I mention I hate it when people do that?).
Thanks for the clarity but I have to be honest here. I've been pretty afronted from the start of this whole drama. Unprofessional content posted 'there' that would have instantly been dealt with here, the nonsense postings and this stupid thread (well, at least some stupid posts in this thread) have all left a pretty rancid taste in my mouth regarding 'the other' site.
So, please do not try to pass off as a compliment to SalonGeek as so far its been pretty much an insult. Its a site set up by a disgruntled non professional that didn't get the response she was looking for here.
Best of luck to you over there. From my experience so far and from what you've typed above, you're going to need as much as you can get.
Ta-ra!
