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Jocie

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Hey girls weird question,

I have a girl who is a black out drunk for a client. So badly that she sneeks booze to her appointments and is drunk all the time. Iv been thinking of dropping her.

Her nails never last more then two weeks. There is damage but its only ever one hand. They are sculpted gels. I have clients who stretch 4 weeks with out a fill and not one break. She now wants a "discount"(her words not mine) because they dont last. She doesnt work and sits at home all day. I have clients who work in deli's and demanding jobs who don't have these issues.

My question is can excessive drinking effect your nails? Can it effect the longevity of them?

P.s. Never had an issue like this before, a part of me thinks she when she is drunk she flails around and breakes them off.
 
Is it always her dominant hand? If so I'd suggest you tell her it's probably something she's doing with that hand while she's drunk or not sure of her actions (in the nicest way possible). I'd also wonder if she is following correct aftercare? If not your nails aren't guaranteed. No discounts thank you very much, however if she feels this service does not suit her she is welcome to try another tech :) Xx
 
No way for discount. If she don't have a job and is always drunk how can she afford having her nails done? Maybe she's trying it on! If u want to get rid then stick to your guns and offer no discount. Keep us posted. X
 
Every client is different and will use their nails differently. No way to a discount! If this was happening to other clients then I would sanitizer one hand and apply product, then repeat with the second but you have said that it isn't. Do not feel disheartened by this "lady".

For instance, if you and joe blogs bought a pair of trousers, you wore yours only for special occasions and followed the care instructions but joe wore and washed theirs every day, whose would look look nice for longer?

Stand your ground and trust your craft xxx
 
Suprisingly it is her left not her right! And she is right handed so confusing. I called her up and layed the law down :) I told her to find another nail tech who could suit her needs
better. She was flat out shocked. She texted me back right away and said maybe we could figure something out. So she is coming in for a consaltation and one last shot. She even had the nerve to ask for free removal!
 
To be honest if her nails are lasting her 2 weeks then they're lasting a reasonable amount of time anyway. I know what you mean, my clients also get weeks and weeks with no lifting, chipping etc so when you do get one who only gets 2 weeks it seems poor in comparison, but we tell our clients that with proper care 2 to 3 weeks is about right (though obviously this varies), so 2 weeks although its low in comparison is about right. Certainly she's not entitled to any discounts or freebies.

Regarding her being an alcoholic, I know its not your place to delve into your clients personal lives, but this woman sounds like she's in an awful mess, if she cant even get through her nail appointment without a drink she needs help. Only you know what your relationship with this client is like, do you think you could help her or would she not appreciate it? I'm not suggesting you babysit her, but maybe give her a phone number for a drug/alcohol clinic or somewhere else she can go and get help?
 
Thanks for the advice girls. I dont really wanna be the one to tell her to get help, I dont really think its any of my busniess. Lol, she has come to me before with such extreme naik damage before that she had no nail plate left. Ripped completely off. Iv thought about it and I think I am fireing my fiirst client in 4 years! Hope imdoing the right thing, at first I was upset but now im right insulted.
 
Thanks for the advice girls. I dont really wanna be the one to tell her to get help, I dont really think its any of my busniess. Lol, she has come to me before with such extreme naik damage before that she had no nail plate left. Ripped completely off. Iv thought about it and I think I am fireing my fiirst client in 4 years! Hope imdoing the right thing, at first I was upset but now im right insulted.

Why are you insulted? We all have customers from time to time who trash their nails, but its nothing to take personally thats just how some people are, I dont think her being an alcoholic has anything to do with how she treats her nails. I actually feel very sorry for her it sounds like she has a crap life, I cant imagine what could happen to a person in life to drive them to that level of drinking, perhaps she picks/pulls her nails because its a nervous habit.
 
If you can afford to drop her drop her. You'll need to say that this product isnt compatible for her (lifestyle) and that there is nothing that you can do to change the way the product performs. If she's that drunk then its likely she has no idea what she does with her nails from one day to the next...
 
I personally think it is up to you to tell this client to get help .Ask if she has had help before after all you could be an hero for her to change her life and save her life..Really if she is that drunk then you should NOT be doing her nails anyways. she could die from her drinking habbit and if she is coming to you it makes it worse. Your taking money from an addict.. find her some help at least before you start doing anything
 
I personally think it is up to you to tell this client to get help .Ask if she has had help before after all you could be an hero for her to change her life and save her life..Really if she is that drunk then you should NOT be doing her nails anyways. she could die from her drinking habbit and if she is coming to you it makes it worse. Your taking money from an addict.. find her some help at least before you start doing anything

I disagree that it's up to the op to tell the client to get help. Disagree completely.

I disagree with "she could die from her drinking habbit and if she is coming to you it makes it worse" the op has nothing here to worry about in terms of obligation to the client's lifestyle. Sorry but I don't think it's right to have the op think they have any obligation to do anything other than perform the best service & protect their business, which is what they came here to ask advice about.
 
I disagree that it's up to the op to tell the client to get help. Disagree completely.

I disagree with "she could die from her drinking habbit and if she is coming to you it makes it worse" the op has nothing here to worry about in terms of obligation to the client's lifestyle. Sorry but I don't think it's right to have the op think they have any obligation to do anything other than perform the best service & protect their business, which is what they came here to ask advice about.

I couldn't agree more. It is not a nail tech's place to tell someone they have an alcohol problem or need help.
 
Thank you ladies. I dont think im making it at all worse by preforming the service. Is it the clerk at the grocery stores job to tell someone the have a drinking problem if they are coming in drunk all the time? No it isn't. I have enough issues in my own personal life so I dont need to be fixing other peoples. Trust me I lived with an alcoholic for years, they only will get help if THEY want to get help. I am a nail tech, not a therapist or an addiction specialist. I am in no way responsible for finding this girl help or telling her where to get it. I love all my clients and want to hep them all....to a certain degree, when it leaks into my personal life I cant have this. I am a proffesional not their friend.

Thank you to all the girls who did understand my question :) I so appericate all the help I can get! I learn something new everyday on this site! Xoxoxo
 
Thank you ladies. I dont think im making it at all worse by preforming the service. Is it the clerk at the grocery stores job to tell someone the have a drinking problem if they are coming in drunk all the time? No it isn't. I have enough issues in my own personal life so I dont need to be fixing other peoples. Trust me I lived with an alcoholic for years, they only will get help if THEY want to get help. I am a nail tech, not a therapist or an addiction specialist. I am in no way responsible for finding this girl help or telling her where to get it. I love all my clients and want to hep them all....to a certain degree, when it leaks into my personal life I cant have this. I am a proffesional not their friend.

Thank you to all the girls who did understand my question :) I so appericate all the help I can get! I learn something new everyday on this site! Xoxoxo

Totally agree with you. You are a nail tech NOT an alcohol counsellor. She could flipping well punch you in the gob for suggesting she's an alcoholic in the first place! (coz I bet shed never admit to being one).

Yes, purely tell her that your systems are obviously not compatible for her and unfortunately you won't be able to do them any more xx
 
I have a client who comes in drunk....sadly her hubby committed suicide with no means at all,she has a beautiful daughter who has just gone off to unin.And I worrie about her she drinks and drives,drinks around the clock..... But I don't know what to do???
 
I personally think it is up to you to tell this client to get help .Ask if she has had help before after all you could be an hero for her to change her life and save her life..Really if she is that drunk then you should NOT be doing her nails anyways. she could die from her drinking habbit and if she is coming to you it makes it worse. Your taking money from an addict.. find her some help at least before you start doing anything

Sorry this is very bad advice. We are nail technicians and just like we cannot treat or diagnose a fungal infection we can't treat someone with alcoholism or substance abuse problems. It's out of our spectrum and not professional to tell your client they need help with their personal situation before they can have their nails done!!! I think there is a very fine line here. If the client is excessively drunk and then driving I'd be quite happy to call the police like I would for some other random drunk driver on the road (you can do this anonymously) but I certainly wouldn't try to council her. So many more issues could come from that. Just like a previous poster says-she could get very angry and retaliate! Personally, going back to the root problem, if its becoming a huge chore and you're struggling with this client and you do feel like you need to let her go, do it. I feel sorry for her and hope one day she does get this sorted. I have dealt with a lot of alcoholism on my dad's side of the family and its a slippery emotionally draining slope. I hope she finds herself and finds health and happiness soon.
 
Thanks shannonu. I couldnt agree more, Iv actully had to drive her home quite a few times and she has slipped on paying me to. So i'll just cut my loses. She is the same age as me and just parties all the time. She also has a baby, and I think she has been reported to child services. I feel horrible for her. This has been such a good learning experiance for me, I honestly should have nipped this in the bud from the beginning. Not 6 or 7 sets and fills down the line.
 
Is the client under the influenve of drink at her appointment?

If so check your insurance still.covers you.

Before any treatment you perform you need consent. If she is drunk it could be arguees she dont understand the treatment and advice.

I would make sure ur covered first of all ;-)

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I do believe drinking messes up your nails. I was at the club for my birthday and there were so many drinks I'm pretty sure I spilled it all over my hands. Anyways the next day I notice my shellac shrunk from the free edge. And were stained and yuck. They were also soft and not as shiny. I'm not cnd trained but before I went to the club they were perfect.
 
Thanks dizzypanda! I.have been looking all around the internet trying to find it lots of drinking effects fake nails. I found (dunno if this is true) that it effects your blood flow if your an alcoholic which completely makes sense. Im not at all a doctor, but you would think being an alcoholic your body defiantly isnt in as good of shape. My intrest has been so peaked now.
 
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