Extraction Ventilation please help!!!!

[spn01]

Can you please advise:
which extraction ventilation is best - is there any links to a website for purusal
Does extraction ventilation control vapours and Dust?

Doing a salon refit and would like to get it right.
Thanking you

 

[geeg]

Can you please advise:
which extraction ventilation is best - is there any links to a website for purusal
Does extraction ventilation control vapours and Dust?

Doing a salon refit and would like to get it right.
Thanking you

It is so easy to get an engineer to make a system for you and not expensive either. A false ceiling is usually required if you want to hide the pipes.

It is only a means of sucking out the air and the dust to the outside of where you are working and allowing fresh air to circulate.

I had it installed over every single workstation in my salon. Doug Schoon told me it was the best he had ever seen. I asked my builder to create something for me and he did. It was not Incorporated in my desk. I didn't want that as I like to work over a towel which would have covered up the air intake.

Instead it was installed over my head within my breathing space and also incorporated a light so that my desk was clear of everything except for the things I was using. Brilliant.

 

[spn01]

Awesome, thank you so much for sharing Geeg.
Was your light and extraction unit suspended from the ceiling or did you have it mounted on the table and plumbed into the floor (if on floor boards) or into the walls? do you mind clarifying for me.:hug:

 

[geeg]

Awesome, thank you so much for sharing Geeg.
Was your light and extraction unit suspended from the ceiling or did you have it mounted on the table and plumbed into the floor (if on floor boards) or into the walls? do you mind clarifying for me.:hug:

Not at all. it was basically a tube about 4-5" in diameter suspended from the false ceiling. At the 'desk end' of the tube we suspended a halogen light and above the light we fitted a small but fairly powerful yet almost silent extraction fan (similar to one you would install in a kitchen wall ... we had 8 of these; one over each work station). Up in the false ceiling the engineer installed another larger fan to assist the draw of the smaller ones so that all dust was vented outside the building. The desk end of each tube was finished off with a sort of grill/cap to make it look nice. We painted all the tubes to match in with the decor and it looked quite funky and was very functional.

The difference it made to the amount of dust in the salon was phenomenal. After a service we used to hold files and buffers just underneath and take a little brush to clean and watch it whiz up the tube :lol: ... fab. I'm sure your builder can come up with a similar scheme for you. The pipes were actually outdoor downpipes that would normally be used on the outside of a house ... the extraction fans miraculously fit perfectly inside them. Good luck.

 

[spn01]

Again, thank you soooooooooo much :hug: I have printed this out and will discuss with an engineer.

 

[xAnnaBannAx]

Not at all. it was basically a tube about 4-5" in diameter suspended from the false ceiling. At the 'desk end' of the tube we suspended a halogen light and above the light we fitted a small but fairly powerful yet almost silent extraction fan (similar to one you would install in a kitchen wall ... we had 8 of these; one over each work station). Up in the false ceiling the engineer installed another larger fan to assist the draw of the smaller ones so that all dust was vented outside the building. The desk end of each tube was finished off with a sort of grill/cap to make it look nice. We painted all the tubes to match in with the decor and it looked quite funky and was very functional.

The difference it made to the amount of dust in the salon was phenomenal. After a service we used to hold files and buffers just underneath and take a little brush to clean and watch it whiz up the tube :lol: ... fab. I'm sure your builder can come up with a similar scheme for you. The pipes were actually outdoor downpipes that would normally be used on the outside of a house ... the extraction fans miraculously fit perfectly inside them. Good luck.

I dont suppose you have an piccies of your salon? Would love to see!

 

[geeg]

I dont suppose you have an piccies of your salon? Would love to see!

I did have some and I'm sure Samantha has them somewhere, but sadly none of them were taken on a digital camera (I don't think there was such a thing in those days! ) We didn't have a computer either believe it or not!! :lol:

My desks were very cool too and Every technician had under the desk a slimline set of drawers in metal (from Ikea) which we had professionally spray painted to match the decor of the salon.

Each technician kept her products in the metal drawers and the bottom drawer was for rubbish. So everything was kept virtually odour free and there was no clutter of metal pedal bins to trip over or lamps on the table (dust catchers I called them .. I hate clutter) (besides which when working you can never get your darned foot on the pedal anyway !!).

It was a salon WAY ahead of it's time. Doug Schoon came to the opening along with Jan Arnold (those were the days eh mum???lol) and told me then it was one of the nicest salons he had ever seen and with the best extraction ventilation he had ever seen in a salon.

 

[Bev Rose]

That sounds like a very simple and effective method of extraction. Simplicity is always a good idea.

I've been wondering what to do with my log cabin and I may just let (make) my hubby read through this Geeg.

Btw - I think it's a fantastic idea of Annabannas to ask you to get some pics up of your salons. I for one would be facinated to see them. I'm sure Samantha is kicking her heels about with nothing to do today lol: as if) maybe she could go on a piccy hunt for us all?

 

[Bev Rose]

It is so easy to get an engineer to make a system for you and not expensive either. A false ceiling is usually required if you want to hide the pipes.

It is only a means of sucking out the air and the dust to the outside of where you are working and allowing fresh air to circulate.

I had it installed over every single workstation in my salon. Doug Schoon told me it was the best he had ever seen. I asked my builder to create something for me and he did. It was not Incorporated in my desk. I didn't want that as I like to work over a towel which would have covered up the air intake.

Instead it was installed over my head within my breathing space and also incorporated a light so that my desk was clear of everything except for the things I was using. Brilliant.

Can I ask, where exactly did the extracted dust etc go too? Did it end up out in the street so to speak, or did it have some sort of receptical which required emptying now & again iykwim?

 

[geeg]

Can I ask, where exactly did the extracted dust etc go too? Did it end up out in the street so to speak, or did it have some sort of receptical which required emptying now & again iykwim?

It ended out in the street so to speak! :lol: Like a tumble drier does at home. There isn't THAT much dust for it to be even noticed.

 

[Bev Rose]

Thank you Geeg.:hug:

That means I won't turn my garden white then lol!:lol:

 

[geeg]

Thank you Geeg.:hug:

That means I won't turn my garden white then lol!:lol:

Nope .. no slag heaps of dust building up outside your work space. :lol:

 

[mum]

I did have some and I'm sure Samantha has them somewhere, but sadly none of them were taken on a digital camera (I don't think there was such a thing in those days! ) We didn't have a computer either believe it or not!! :lol:

My desks were very cool too and Every technician had under the desk a slimline set of drawers in metal (from Ikea) which we had professionally spray painted to match the decor of the salon.

Each technician kept her products in the metal drawers and the bottom drawer was for rubbish. So everything was kept virtually odour free and there was no clutter of metal pedal bins to trip over or lamps on the table (dust catchers I called them .. I hate clutter) (besides which when working you can never get your darned foot on the pedal anyway !!).

It was a salon WAY ahead of it's time. Doug Schoon came to the opening along with Jan Arnold (those were the days eh mum???lol) and told me then it was one of the nicest salons he had ever seen and with the best extraction ventilation he had ever seen in a salon.

I remember it well Geeg (both the 'days' and the salon!) The salon looked fabulous maybe even a bit 'Trekky'. Incorporating lighting too was genius. Wish I'd worked there

 

[Urban Geek]

Here are some pics of my first home salon. The room was tiny, only 10' x 6' but met my needs perfectly at that time. My hubby is a carpenter and installed the extraction ventilation system which went outside, with the extraction to the right of my working area which he boxed in and I could them utilise that area well too. It might give you some ideas:

 

[geeg]

Here are some pics of my first home salon. The room was tiny, only 10' x 6' but met my needs perfectly at that time. My hubby is a carpenter and installed the extraction ventilation system which went outside, with the extraction to the right of my working area which he boxed in and I could them utilise that area well too. It might give you some ideas:

That looks nice and tidy and non intrusive GREAT job ... clever man!! I think people make way too much of it and think it is more difficult or expensive than it really is! Result .. they do nothing and possibly compromise their health in the process.

Extraction ventilation is the FIRST thing people should be thinking of instead of spending money on useless products that their clients will never ask them to use. My opinion peeps.

 

[Urban Geek]

Thanks Gigi!

I could not have been without the extraction ventilation, especially when I started out. Before I had it installed and before I learned how to work efficiently (when I did my Creative masters courses), you could smell the products all through the house. It also helped with the dust issue too.

 

[xAnnaBannAx]

Here are some pics of my first home salon. The room was tiny, only 10' x 6' but met my needs perfectly at that time. My hubby is a carpenter and installed the extraction ventilation system which went outside, with the extraction to the right of my working area which he boxed in and I could them utilise that area well too. It might give you some ideas:

Hey that looks really nice....like Geeg says really tidy and uncluttered....I really like that desk it looks like it fits in there perfectly...Ive only got a little room and need to find a good desk...Id like to know how your hubby did the ventilation....what do you use to create the suction?

im the same as you Geeg i hate clutter...I dont work well in a mess at all BUT despite this I do find it quite difficult to stay tidy...its something im still working on!...I usually start off tidy then it all goes to pot...the trouble is I want to be tidy and I try to but I also want to have everything single thing out that I own as well so I can see it, not forget I have it and grab it easy :lol:

 

[Urban Geek]

Hey that looks really nice....like Geeg says really tidy and uncluttered....I really like that desk it looks like it fits in there perfectly...Ive only got a little room and need to find a good desk...Id like to know how your hubby did the ventilation....what do you use to create the suction?

im the same as you Geeg i hate clutter...I dont work well in a mess at all BUT despite this I do find it quite difficult to stay tidy...its something im still working on!...I usually start off tidy then it all goes to pot...the trouble is I want to be tidy and I try to but I also want to have everything single thing out that I own as well so I can see it, not forget I have it and grab it easy :lol:

It was just a standard extractor and ventilation unit, actioned by switch, bought from a DIY store.

The desk was a computer station from Ikea.

Thanks!

 

[geeg]

Hey that looks really nice....like Geeg says really tidy and uncluttered....I really like that desk it looks like it fits in there perfectly...Ive only got a little room and need to find a good desk...Id like to know how your hubby did the ventilation....what do you use to create the suction?

im the same as you Geeg i hate clutter...I dont work well in a mess at all BUT despite this I do find it quite difficult to stay tidy...its something im still working on!...I usually start off tidy then it all goes to pot...the trouble is I want to be tidy and I try to but I also want to have everything single thing out that I own as well so I can see it, not forget I have it and grab it easy :lol:

I always have and always will work at a desk that is 'L' shaped. To my right hand side (because I am right handed), I have drawers and shelves and cupboard. I keep most everything I need in the top drawer. I only have to pull it out to see everything and it is in there not on my work table. Keeps everything neat and away until I need it or have finished with it. As soon as I finish with a product it goes in the drawer not on the desk top.