First day in salon need help!!!!!

[nails beautiful]

Hi all,
i am a neewbie and have just had my first day in the salon . I had a few issues and hope someone can help with advice.
When using shellac on really short nails how do you avoid the skin at the tip and if it is not avoidable is best to remove from the skin before or after curing and with acetone or normal remover i would assume it would be before any advice would be great as there was no training course specific for this.Also can you go over shellac once finished i had a lady today wanting it right up to the edge but i had already cured it.Could i go back and fill in then cure the top coat again and cure?
Thanks for reading this long thread and any help would be appreciated

 

[shedunlop]

I am not sure about the reapplying of Shellac as I use Gelish but a good tip for the short nails and avoiding the skin is to use a sculpting form on the free edge of the nail. Just hold it on between the finger and edge of the nail, paint the nail, capping the edge. This works wonderfully with no product on the skin to worry about!

 

[skymark]

I am not sure about the reapplying of Shellac as I use Gelish but a good tip for the short nails and avoiding the skin is to use a sculpting form on the free edge of the nail. Just hold it on between the finger and edge of the nail, paint the nail, capping the edge. This works wonderfully with no product on the skin to worry about!

Thats a great idea. I struggle with this a bit on short or very bitten nails.

 

[nails beautiful]

what a fab tip using a form thank goodness for the benefits of nailgeek and your appreciated knowledge
thankyou thankyou

 

[shedunlop]

Thank you. It is just so simple but works perfectly!

 

[geeg]

Hi all,
i am a neewbie and have just had my first day in the salon . I had a few issues and hope someone can help with advice.
When using shellac on really short nails how do you avoid the skin at the tip and if it is not avoidable is best to remove from the skin before or after curing and with acetone or normal remover i would assume it would be before any advice would be great as there was no training course specific for this.Also can you go over shellac once finished i had a lady today wanting it right up to the edge but i had already cured it.Could i go back and fill in then cure the top coat again and cure?
Thanks for reading this long thread and any help would be appreciated

Personally I couldn't be bothered to use forms for painting nails ... extra time and extra expense andnot necessary IMHO.

Try to paint as accurately as you can (as always) and When short nails are a challenge, you can just keep a small brush handy and some Scrub Fresh, Nail Fresh or even D-Sperse alcohol solution and just dip in and wipe away (before curing of course). Very quick and simple and accurate. Do the same if you want to perfect the detail of the eponychium line (you can't do that with a form)!!

The answer to your last question is of course you can go back and apply another layer if you need to.

Remember that Shellac is not a coloured gel ... it is also 3 free and hypoallergenic so any on the skin will not be an issue and it is easy to just remove in a heartbeat with the brush and alcohol trick and no faffing about.

Good luck in the new salon job. :hug:

 

[shedunlop]

Fabulous reply Gigi as always! Sorry I didn't make myself clear enough, I meant only one nail form, detacked a bit and use it on the fingers you need to by moving it along.

As you said Nailsbeautiful what a wonderful place to come for various ideas on a single theme!

 

[geeg]

Fabulous reply Gigi as always! Sorry I didn't make myself clear enough, I meant only one nail form, detacked a bit and use it on the fingers you need to by moving it along.

As you said Nailsbeautiful what a wonderful place to come for various ideas on a single theme!

My take on it is this; If nails are so short that you are going to get paint all over the client's skin, then it is also going to take more time to even fit the forms whether it is ten form on all 10 fingers or putting on and taking off ONE form on each of ten fingers. I've never had to put a nail form on anyone to paint their nails in my whole career lol ...... Instead I suppose the way I did it was to master the art of painting so it was never really necessary.

A little brush and Nailfresh to perfect any details is all I have ever needed to do and it also looks very professional to do it that way rather than in effect, masking up the finger before you paint it like you would when painting a room Come to think of it .. that's not a bad analogy as if you watch a Master painter/decorator, they do their 'cutting in' by hand and very rarely use masking tape (which in painting terms is an amateur way of doing it and takes ages to put on).

I'm not saying there is not more than one way to do things but good grief whatever ever happened to the pride of learning the skill to do things the expert way. For that matter what ever happened to the experts?? Are they all over 50!! JMHO

 

[shedunlop]

My take on it is this; If nails are so short that you are going to get paint all over the client's skin, then it is also going to take more time to even fit the forms whether it is ten form on all 10 fingers or putting on and taking off ONE form on each of ten fingers. I've never had to put a nail form on anyone to paint their nails in my whole career lol ...... Instead I suppose the way I did it was to master the art of painting so it was never really necessary.

A little brush and Nailfresh to perfect any details is all I have ever needed to do and it also looks very professional to do it that way rather than in effect, masking up the finger before you paint it like you would when painting a room Come to think of it .. that's not a bad analogy as if you watch a Master painter/decorator, they do their 'cutting in' by hand and very rarely use masking tape (which in painting terms is an amateur way of doing it and takes ages to put on).

I'm not saying there is not more than one way to do things but good grief whatever ever happened to the pride of learning the skill to do things the expert way. For that matter what ever happened to the experts?? Are they all over 50!! JMHO

Well that has put me in my place! LOL!!!

 

[geeg]

I am not trying to put anyone in 'a place' and I apologise if what I said seemed that way.

As I said it is my opinion that many do not take the time to perfect the real skills of doing the job perfectly without aids to help them, prefering to take an easier way out... that does not make it wrong to do that but neither does it ever help one to improve ones skills. It also means that without those 'aids' to help, one is stuck and can't do the job !!

 

[nails beautiful]

thanks shedunlop for your tip once again , bought forms today and it works a treat and has really helped me i don't consider myself an expert as yet as i am new but i feel we are always learning and any if any help will get me there then it is worth a try, i do try to paint carefully but i have found it impossible on very short nails to avoid the skin and would much prefer to use the form than put further product on my clients skin than is necessary so thanks again for your input and i am over 50 so maybe an expert one day ??? here's hoping

 

[shedunlop]

thanks shedunlop for your tip once again , bought forms today and it works a treat and has really helped me i don't consider myself an expert as yet as i am new but i feel we are always learning and any if any help will get me there then it is worth a try, i do try to paint carefully but i have found it impossible on very short nails to avoid the skin and would much prefer to use the form than put further product on my clients skin than is necessary so thanks again for your input and i am over 50 so maybe an expert one day ??? here's hoping

Thank you darling, glad it helped!