Full head bleach advice

#1
Hi, my client wants a full head bleach to be light enough to put green/pink colour over the top, this is a photo of her hair now. The bottom half has been highlighted some time ago and her ends are already light but as it was highlights not all of it My plan was to use blondor 30 Vol on the roots, but a little unsure about the ends. I was planning on lifting to a level 9/10 then using a toner 921, also I have never done a full head bleach before and would like a nice lift from one application. I was thinking back to back foils then when almost processed remove foil then do on scalp application. Any advice would be helpful. Also Can I ask what people would be charging for this as I think I have under quoted. Thanks Mel
 

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Haircutz

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#2
I would just do a normal bleach root touch up and then incorporate the lighter ends in the last 5 mins or so, assuming they’re not too damaged?
My internet is a bit rubbish today so the pics aren’t downloading properly.
What sort of colour are you using for the pink/green? A direct dye or an oxidising tint?
Normally, you’d need to tone out the yellow first before applying your fashion colour.
 

Semt

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#3
The ends don’t need bleaching at all because they look really light & pink anyway.
She looks really dark though & on scalp bleach could cause banding cos her regrowth is so long. I’d do what your confident at, back to back foils till it’s nearky light enough then do the roots while the fouls are still on. Bleach bath the ends at the basin with 10vol & that pink will come out enough to apply a fresh coat of pink or to apply green. With green you shouldn’t tone out the yellow as green has yellow in it so it’s actually pointless anyway
 

#4
The ends don’t need bleaching at all because they look really light & pink anyway.
She looks really dark though & on scalp bleach could cause banding cos her regrowth is so long. I’d do what your confident at, back to back foils till it’s nearky light enough then do the roots while the fouls are still on. Bleach bath the ends at the basin with 10vol & that pink will come out enough to apply a fresh coat of pink or to apply green. With green you shouldn’t tone out the yellow as green has yellow in it so it’s actually pointless anyway
Thanks for your advice, appreciate it.
 

Haircutz

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#5
The ends don’t need bleaching at all because they look really light & pink anyway.
She looks really dark though & on scalp bleach could cause banding cos her regrowth is so long. I’d do what your confident at, back to back foils till it’s nearky light enough then do the roots while the fouls are still on. Bleach bath the ends at the basin with 10vol & that pink will come out enough to apply a fresh coat of pink or to apply green. With green you shouldn’t tone out the yellow as green has yellow in it so it’s actually pointless anyway
Foiling will take much longer. Time is money.
You have to tone out the yellow for pink though as otherwise, it will go more orange than pink.
Green and pink is an odd combination as most clients hate khaki shades and it can make your skin look ill. I’d probably keep any green slices away from her face.
 

#6
Yes I agree, very strange combination of hours, definitely not something I would choose myself. Do appreciate the advice. I am a Mobile hairdresser and sometimes it’s just good to be able to run things by other people.
 

#7
*strange combination of colours not hours, predicted text
 

Semt

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#8
Foiling will take much longer. Time is money.
You have to tone out the yellow for pink though as otherwise, it will go more orange than pink.
Green and pink is an odd combination as most clients hate khaki shades and it can make your skin look ill. I’d probably keep any green slices away from her face.
I own a salon specialising in vivids so we get asked for this combination and asked for green all the time. Khaki is not green & brighter clean greens suit most people’s skin as it has cool & warm tones in it.
To me her ends in the pic look pink already so I’d just bleach bath. I do pastel pink on levels 8’s with warm tones present but our pinks tone out the warmth enough to not go peach
Maybe do some test swatches with the brand you use & see what it does
 

#9
I own a salon specialising in vivids so we get asked for this combination and asked for green all the time. Khaki is not green & brighter clean greens suit most people’s skin as it has cool & warm tones in it.
To me her ends in the pic look pink already so I’d just bleach bath. I do pastel pink on levels 8’s with warm tones present but our pinks tone out the warmth enough to not go peach
Maybe do some test swatches with the brand you use & see what it does
Thank you my client just wants me to get her hair blonde enough to do the green/pink herself, not sure why. That is why my plan was to bleach her roots then tone 921 just to rid of any yellow/gold and leave her with a nice base to work on.
 

#10
Hi, I am a blonding/alt hair colour specialist hehe... to do Pink and Green, I’d advise doing a full head of foils but stopping where it overlaps to the already lightened ends. Without foil you aren’t going to get the lift you need to get a clean enough blonde to do the green. Always do the roots after and monitor so they don’t become lighter than the rest aka ‘hot roots’.
Then I would ‘clean up’ the ends with a bleach bath.
When your done lifting, I would use direct dyes personally...
The best I’ve found are Joico Intensity or Pravana. (www.dyebox.co.uk)
Fudge’s Paintbox range are quite nice also but in my opinion Joico has more staying power and are packed with pigment!
But Pravana do a ‘locked in’ range which is useful but the colours are a tad limited. Osmo make the colour psycho range that’s good if you want a softer look as they tend to look more ‘pastel’ in my opinion. I wouldn’t use toners for this as I feel with a contrasting colour like this, if the green isn’t clean and crisp like an apple, it will be kinda ugly...
Good luck! If done properly, it’ll look rad!! x
 

#11
Just to clear something up, when I say full head, I mean back to back ;)
 

#12
I know this is time consuming, but just charge accordingly... :)
I agree with Haircutz that time is money, but with alternative hair colours, you can go so darned wrong without the right base.
My advice is to not try to do it in one session...
I often do my process in two halves, so my clients come in for the lightening process first. I’ll take my time, get it nice and even and light and then the next time I’ll do the colour. I can then soend my time on colour placement with no rush. :)
 

#13
Oh, gosh! I’m sorry, I misunderstood o_O She wants to colour herself... Lol, that’s a bad call but fair enough.
In that case, ignore my direct dye talk!!
 

#14
Oh, gosh! I’m sorry, I misunderstood o_O She wants to colour herself... Lol, that’s a bad call but fair enough.
In that case, ignore my direct dye talk!!
Thanks for your advice, will do back foils as I thought. Yes want a nice clean blonde. Would rather be doing the pink/green myself to finish the result, but that’s not what she wants.
 

#15
Sounds like she’s being cheap tbh with that, hate it when clients try to ‘save money’ with DIY. But at least she knows she can’t lift herself so that’s something. :rolleyes:
 
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