HELP - My tips keep coming off :-(

[ker03]

Hi everyone, I am new to this site and new to Bio sculpture. I have my assessment at the start of June, but I am having a bit of trouble and wondered if you guys could help me please.

I have been applying tips with gel overlay, but with a few clients some of their tips (not all) have come off within a week or so or even a few days. I can't understand why this is happening. I don't think I have airbubbles. and also if I did, why am I having them? Is it too little glue? Do the tips have to be the EXACT size of the natural nail?

I'm really confused as to why this is happening, if anybody could offer me any help I'd really appreciate it. I do not want to take on any more clients at the mo until I can get it sorted.

Thanks Guys, by the way really like this website, its been great for me up til now and can see me using it more in the future.

 

[Helbels]

Hiya

I'm a fellow newbie to Biosculpture

What type of tips are you using? Are they french?

I read something on here about the french tips tending not to cure so well under the UV light, as they reflect the light or something Are you taking the shine off your tips first?

I'm sure other geeks will be happy to give you further advice.

Helen.

 

[ker03]

hey helbels, thanks for the quick reply, no i'm not using french tips as I've heard they don't last well too. Ye i'm also making sure I take the shine off them.
I don't click the nail into place as i was taught in training I size it up and place it in the right place on the natural nail. A friend of mine has told me to do this and she never has problems with tips falling off, so can't see why I would have a problem. eeeeek frustrating!!
Thanks for your help once again.

 

[gillian w]

Someone with experience of bio sculpture will help you soon but this is too be expected.There is lots to get exactly right with any system and with both bio and calgel they are not the strongest gels over tips anyway so even more to get right.This is why most sculpt.
Yes tips do need to fit exactly so you may need to file down a bit at the sides if they dont.

Are your clients aware that you are still in training so they will come back ,make allowances and give you the chance to keep practising.

 

[Peter Pan]

Do the tips have to be the EXACT size of the natural nail?

tips normally tend to pop off if the fit isnt right flower, so in answer to your question, yes, they do need to fit from side wall to side wall,

airbubbles could be caused by you rushing to get the tip on. try and apply it abit slower, and that should stop the bubbles

hth
:hug:

 

[ker03]

Thanks for the help so far guys.

I passed my assessment today yay, now qualified. but still low in confidence with the tips, they have a lovely finish. but its seems the majority of my clients who have tips are coming off now. Its only one or two tips, but then they tell me that they have picked the rest off, surely tips should be impossible to pick off. (not all clients do this) but i do not charge for repairs at the mo, as I think the problem is me. Is it true you must be so careful with tips for e.g. don't tap the tips (clients love to do this).

I'm feeling quite low at the mo, as it seems that within a few days of putting the tips on i'll have a txt or phone 'a tip has come off' :irked:. i just want a set of tips to stay on until they grow out or are removed the correct way.

xx

 

[Zingara]

I've been a Bio Sculpture tech for a few years now and rarely tip, as tbh, Bio just isn't the strongest system over tips. You need good nails, a perfect fit, a little free edge so you can size them with minimal coverage and you need to build a good strong apex (with S-gel). Thing is, if you have all this, you may as well fit them with a form and sculpt with Free Edge gel in a fraction of the time!

Certainly anyone with flatter or shorter (bitten) nails, isn't going to suit tips with Bio.

Best advice I can give is get yoursefl booked on the sculpting workshop pronto....it was invaluable to me at building my confidence in sculpting and has stood me in good stead with undertanding other gel systems as well. It'll be well worth the extra few quid.

Oh and congrats on passing your assessment....have you joined our Bio group yet?

http://www.salongeek.com/group.php?groupid=12

 

[ker03]

thanks for the advise lyndsay, id love to do sculpture as i think they are better than tips anyway. I thought they were more time consuming and more complicated than tips. But i hate all this blending and all the dust from tips. i'm doin alot of clients with short nails, can u sculpt on them? prob with silk is it?
by the way wot does tbh mean, soz new to all this. Ye joined the group thanks and thanks again for the advice, more welcome

x

 

[Zingara]

Sorry, tbh, is "to be honest"! I'm usually such a dimbo with Message board lingo and can never get anything myslef and then I go and do the same.

I think you'll find sculpting easier, and much quicker! Bio now have the Free Edge gel which is the new sculpting gel and doesn't need silk, in most circumstances. Thats said, its an extra stength layer for very short nails and what I tend to do here, is overlay the nail, apply a strip of silk to the uncured gel and nudge a small pseudo free edge out with it, then cure. This way you then give yourself a small free edge to fit your form under and build. I've had a few probs with free edges breaking, but am putting this down to too small an apex, as you do need to build a strong apex and c-curve for strength with Bio.

If I do use tips, I use CND performance tips...well-less, no blending, only the tiniest contact area is needed, very thin yet strong, but applied and then overlaid with a good apex in S-gel they do last! I used to use Bio tips, but found them quite a faff to blend!