Help needed with Gel application...

[Natalie'83]

Help!
I applied gel overlay on tips today and some of the nails were still tacky on the ends of the tips! I cured for the correct amount of time if not a bit over and when I saw that they were still tacky, I put them under the lamp for an extra 3 minutes. This didnt help the problem. Some of the nails are fantastic so I cant understand it. I did use 2 different brand nail tips (salon systems and cuccio), would this have caused this problem or is it the gel that im using...its a salon systems one or am i doing something wrong
Any advice or suggestions will be greatly appreciated
Natalie

 

[nailsbyamy]

You're not talking about the tacky inhibition layer that still remains after your cure gels are you? Most gel products leave a tacky inhibition layer that just needs to be wiped off with cleanser.

 

[ValencianNails]

Help!
I applied gel overlay on tips today and some of the nails were still tacky on the ends of the tips! I cured for the correct amount of time if not a bit over and when I saw that they were still tacky, I put them under the lamp for an extra 3 minutes. This didnt help the problem. Some of the nails are fantastic so I cant understand it. I did use 2 different brand nail tips (salon systems and cuccio), would this have caused this problem or is it the gel that im using...its a salon systems one or am i doing something wrong
Any advice or suggestions will be greatly appreciated
Natalie

The tips you used wouldn't have had any bearing on whether you had an inhibition (sticky/tacky) layer or not.

Can I just ask you Natalie, have you trained in gel as your profile doesn't mention it?
I'm thinking not as this would have been covered in the training, whether it be a foundation or conversion.

I would imagine that it's either the inhibition layer OR that the gel isn't curing properly due to using the wrong lamp and/or bulbs needing to be changed. In both cases you're risking over-exposure if you're not careful, especially if you're touching the enhancements that have the 'sticky' layer on them.

 

[Natalie'83]

The only training I have received was from the city and guilds level 3 nail technician diploma from my local college. Is this no adequate enough? do i need to go for more training?
The layer Im talking about is the last one (i bet there is an actual name for it)
God i feel really out of my depth now
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[ValencianNails]

The only training I have received was from the city and guilds level 3 nail technician diploma from my local college. Is this no adequate enough? do i need to go for more training?
The layer Im talking about is the last one (i bet there is an actual name for it)
God i feel really out of my depth now
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It's more a case of whether you know everything there is to know about the product/s you're using.
I really don't think you know enough about gel to be using it at the moment, you pose an over-exposure threat to not only yourself but also the clients you're using it on, that's not meant in a horrible way, more a caring way as it's so important for you to know about the products/chemicals you're using etc :hug:

The layer you're talking about is definitely the inhibition layer, this layer is caused by oxygen inhibiting the gel to fully cure, it needs to be removed by the cleanser recommended by the company whose products you're using before you can do any buffing/filing.

Do you have the right UV lamp for the gel you're using? The following link will help explain more: http://www.salongeek.com/general-articles/35947-choosing-uv-lamp-your-gel-system.html

If possible, try to book yourself on a conversion course to train in gel, that way you'll know all about the product you're using :hug:

hth's a bit :green:

 

[angel fingers]

could be that you arent remembering correctly from your course if you havent had much practice or it could be that you werent taught correctly, i hear so many stories like this from beauty students who are taught nails by someone who doesnt really have addequate proffesional knowledge on the subject.

what brand are you using? i think you could benifit from a refresher day to give you more information and confidence on the subject. gel is something you dont want to mess with without the full info due to the problems of removal and its relative ease of over exposure when not treated 100%correctly.
you clearly want to do things properly and just 1 day could go a long way in refreshing your knowledge and leading you on to the next step. try to find a brand educator or someone who will give you generic training, but make sure they have specialist knowledge in gels.

 

[Natalie'83]

Thank you for all your advice.

Im now looking into doing the CND retention & creative conversion course.
Does anyone know if this is any good?

Natalie

 

[catsaremad]

lol natalie, CND is a very very very very respected company not only for the training that it provides but also for its great customer services and its brilliant products. So yes it will be very good.

However, I would suggest that you search the threads and have a good look at not only CND but other companies as well so that you can make an informed decision about who you wish to train with and which system.

Your origional thread said that you were using Gel, so have you also looked at the Gel courses, I have heard that Creatives Brisa Gel is very good, but you also have other companies such as biosculpture, calgel, Ezflow

Do a good search, make an informed decision thats right for you.

Good luck

 

[angel fingers]

Thank you for all your advice.

Im now looking into doing the CND retention & creative conversion course.
Does anyone know if this is any good?

Natalie

i thought you were using gel though?

 

[Natalie'83]

I want to be trained to the best of my abilities in both gel and liquid and powder. I am calling sweet squared today to see what they would advise.
Thank you to everyone that replied.
This site has become an lifesaver for me
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