Hot wax help

[*sarah*]

Hi guys,

Have just done my intimate waxing course and I'm having a few prblems with it, using austrailian body care. I did my first hollywood after training on my friend last night, it did not go to well!
First the wax in the little foil cup, i seem to need to hold it to get wax out, and also cant seem to find correct temp, was advised 90c but still seems to runny, if I take it out then it goes to gloopy!
Also it seemed at times to not have hardend fully all over even though I pressed down!
And is there another wat to get a handle (lip) to pull off rahter than flicking it up? as I my self and my friend found it quite painful
Still finding it hard right at the labia even thou I had my friend stretching and me stretching to it got stuck on one side (did manage to get it off thou phew!)
Think I'll have to stick to strip wax for eyebrows as I cannot get in close enough applying the wax against the hair (could be because I'm a lefty ?)
Sorry this is so long winded did'nt realise I had so much to ask lol any advice would be greatly appreciated.

xx

 

[wowbb]

Hi Sarah,
I am not sure what the Australian Bodycare wax is like so I cant pass comment on the product you are using but it sounds like you are having problems with the technique?
we use obviously our own wax but the temperature can very much depend on the environment (ie room temperature, body temperature of the client) but generally you should be able to just turn the heater up or down a bit to adjust this.

Everybody is different and especially in intimate waxing you are going to find a different pain threshold for each client. This is especially true when your client has this treatment done for the first time!!!!
if done regularly the pain or should we call it discomfort will reduce by about 50%, however some clients will find certain areas very painful no matter how you and your client stretch.

Hope this helps but if you want any other help pm me ?
:hug:

 

[Kim Lawless]

Hi guys,

Have just done my intimate waxing course and I'm having a few prblems with it, using austrailian body care.

Do your trainers offer after course support? You should be able to call them.

I did my first hollywood after training on my friend last night, it did not go to well!

You won't be perfect after your training but keep practising and you'll get better with each one.

First the wax in the little foil cup, i seem to need to hold it to get wax out

It's just another gimmick. Use your wax from the big heater but DO NOT double dip on Intimate waxing..

, and also cant seem to find correct temp, was advised 90c

What????? I have mine at 60 and that's perfect.

but still seems to runny, if I take it out then it goes to gloopy!

Try some different brands.


Also it seemed at times to not have hardend fully all over even though I pressed down!

Try some different brands.

And is there another wat to get a handle (lip) to pull off rahter than flicking it up? as I my self and my friend found it quite painful

Rather than flick, pinch the end with your finger and thumb, then sharply pull up to release enough to get a good grip.

Still finding it hard right at the labia even thou I had my friend stretching and me stretching to it got stuck on one side (did manage to get it off thou phew!)

You really need to call your trainer and get her support as this is very important and should have been covered on your course. Did she pass you?

Think I'll have to stick to strip wax for eyebrows as I cannot get in close enough applying the wax against the hair (could be because I'm a lefty ?)
Sorry this is so long winded did'nt realise I had so much to ask lol any advice would be greatly appreciated.

I know that it's very difficult for left handed people as even they don't quite know how to hold the spatula or where to stand for the best.

It might help if you take some time to actually get a feel (with a dry spatula) for the side to stand from and the way to hold it.



xx

Keep on striving for perfection. xxx

 

[loubylou]

You have had some great answers hun,
(especially try different waxes and do away with the foil cup)
a tip for getting the lip that you flick up to be less painful is to keep applying the wax a little bit further so that where you have your stop point it is on an area of skin that has no hair,
then you can flick it up without causing any pain, hth :hug:

 

[gillian w]

I would get used to your wax before you progress to the intimate area.Were you familiar with the particular wax you are using before your training day.
If not then just get the feel for it first, try doing a half leg with it and then move up to an inner thigh.
I also agree to ditch the foil cups.If you really want to do it that way large insulated cups are better than foil and will keep the wax at a more constant temperature.
Were you taught to apply a pre wax oil.If you use the whole Australian body care brand you could make your own prewax oil with 50 mils almond oil and 10 drops of their neat tea tree.

 

[*sarah*]

Hi guys,

Thank you so much for the replys, :hug:
I was going to just buy another inner pot for my big wax heater but it seemed like a good idea with the foil cups (at the time...........)
We only had a class of 2 and the trainer did one side of each of us then we did the other side and for some reason it went a whole lot better than on my friend!
Was advised to use talc, which I admit I did'nt have but was'nt sure it would make a major difference (and my friend was bugging me silly to do it!)
The heater only starts from 90c, but when we were in class wax was heated at 150c then taken out of heater so thats why I'm not sure what temp it should be at
The trainer was lovely and said to contact her if any problems so will do, but just wanted to come on and ask some geeks too, does'nt hurt to have loads of info
Also its worse than I thought, my friend has a red tender patch toward the leg !!!! it's no bruised or bleeding so I think I've burnt her but the rest is ok! I did better with the strip wax !
What I really feel like doing is just not offering intimate waxing tbh :irked:
xx

 

[gillian w]

I wouldn't worry about the temperature of the wax in degrees just in the consistency being workable and the temperature being comfortable for your client.You will probably have to have it down a little for intimate waxing than other areas.
It is especially important to use some kind of medium in sensetive areas as it stops the wax sticking to the skin.Therefore you are much less likely to bruise or graze the skin and it is less painful.
If you don't feel confident doing intimate yet then don't.Build your confidence with the wax and your technique in other areas first.It won't be long and you will feel ready to try again.

 

[wowbb]

I agree with Gillian, it is virtually impossible to set the wax heater for a fixed temperature and achieve that the wax will be at perfect consistency all day long.
it very much depends on the room, how big the windows are and if its sunny, in most conservatory salons you will find that you can almost turn the heater off on a sunny day! Its a bit trial and error and once you get used to your wax you can tell when its at it best temperature!

As with everything, practice makes perfect, so keep practicing on other areas till you are fully confident with the wax before you move to the advanced areas!

 

[Zo Zo]

When you say you were advised to use talc but you didn't have any.... did you use anything between the wax and the skin? This is quite important, most of us are using oil now, just a tiny amount. I have never used non-strip with talc so I have no idea if it works, and I am also not familiar with Australian Bodycare, but my instinct is that you must have a barrier between the wax and the skin.

I also agree with Gillian that you must perfect your waxing techniques generally with strip wax, then move on to non-strip, then move on to intimate areas.

Please don't try to run before you can walk, and don't be pressured by your friend to do something you are not ready to do, as the treatment not going well, will affect your confidence going forwards.

 

[Kim Lawless]

I don't agree about perfecting your strip waxing skills before moving on to hot wax. It's a bit like a plumber training to be an electrician......there's no similarity between the two.

What IS important is being confident and familiar with the different body parts, your wax and hair growth. xxx

 

[angelina221]

I find using non-strip wax is easier than using strip wax.
As long as you can make a good strip then you'll be fine.
Obviously you have done waxing otherwise you wouldn't have done an intimate waxing course so it's a case of getting used to the wax.
I've not used that wax so i can't comment. I would definitely get some samples of other waxes and try those.
When i first started using non-strip wax i practised making strips on my arm. I got used to it in no time.
90 degrees sounds way too hot. I don't really take the temperature of my wax as i can tell by looking at it really. I usually have it on round about 2 on my hive 1000cc wax heater and that's with the wax pot full. HTH

 

[*sarah*]

Think I'm getting a bit hung up on the temp of wax, but only because the last thing I want to do is burn someone, I will speak to trainer tommorrow about heater, (she only trains for the company but is not part of it) I think I may have wasted a fair few bob on something I don't need this was my first instinct! lol
I have gotten use to cream wax and know If I need to turn it up or down a little but sticking to around 3 on heater makes me more confident as I know its not going to burn someone.
I feel quite confident using strip wax now, not very fast yet but only qualified in May, so I guess that will come (I hope lol) I think perhaps I should have waited a while to do non strip wax, but I'd heard so many good things on here I wanted to do it asap lol
I did not use anything as a barrier which could be a major factor I have no clue tbh
Can I get small sample packs or do I have to buy full size tubs of wax?
Will be calling trainer tommorw and hopefully will get myself sorted out, as kinda feel like a failure and not a bit too stupid either xx

 

[angelina221]

I know Berins and Perron Rigot do sample size packs so give them a ring and try them. You can call Thalgo for the Perron Rigot wax and you can contact zo-zo on here for the Berins.
Using oil under your wax will make a big difference.
I agree with Kim that you don't really need to perfect using strip wax before using non-strip wax.
I do think that you need to feel really confident waxing before going onto intimate waxing though. I know a few training places where they only train in intimate waxing if you have 6/12 months waxing experience.
I would practice more on underarms and face until you have a good feel for the wax before trying intimate again.
Definitely contact your trainers and explain how you feel. They should be able to iron out any problems.

 

[Zo Zo]

To clarify...

I agree I could have put it better, I was probably in a hurry. What I think is this... don't run before you can walk. Learn to wax before you dive into the intimate areas. From a client's perspective, would you like a newbie waxer let loose on your bits? There are lots of mistakes to be made in waxing and therapists new to waxing need to practice, practice, practice. My point really about non-strip, which I agree I did not make clear, is that you should be confident in the application of non-strip before you put it on intimate areas. For most people, when they learn waxing they are only taught strip waxing, so the natural progression would be strip, then non-strip, then intimate.

While I'm on, Berins do not offer sample sizes. I personally don't agree with them because, I think the best way of regulating the temperature of your pot is to have it full. It is very hard to work with a small amount of non-strip. In fact, I wouldn't even recommend someone buys just one tin of wax, I would recommend they buy at least one tin and one bag, because you need to be able to constantly top up your tin.

I have tried many products over the last few years (and I'm not talking just wax here) and generally speaking I have paid for them, and at at full size. Yes, we can listen to others opinions about what is good and what is better, but the only real way to know what we personally think is best, is by trying it, and comparing it for ourselves.

Yes, when we start up, we waste a bit of money. Or that is how it seems at the time. But over the long term there is money to be made offering beauty treatments, and in fact, it generally doesn't take long to recoup your original outlay.

 

[Kim Lawless]

I know a few training places where they only train in intimate waxing if you have 6/12 months waxing experience.

The reason that I will train people Intimate Waxing, without a minimum time having done waxing is:-

1. I've found that someone could have qualified 20 years ago, but it doesn't mean that they been waxing since then. It also doesn't mean that they've been waxing well.

2. I've taught some 'very experienced' waxers over the years, who were not as good as my Absolute Beginners. This is because they've got into bad habits.

This isn't a slur on experienced therapists at all and these are the minority. This is just to say that my experiences have proved that time isn't important, it's ability that is.

I discussed this with my pal and trainer and he too no longer specifies a minimum period of experience needed for exactly the same reasons.

 

[*sarah*]

Well called trainer today and she said after I told her the ins and outs of what happened all I needed was talc, as my friend was quite hot so the wax was staying hot, also she was in a bit of a tizzy so then so was I! lol
Anyhoo TALC IS MY NEW BEST FRIEND :lol: I waxed my mum today absolutely no problems managed to do it in 50mins as well, also did my friend who is a wax virgin, she did'nt like the pain around the top "horse shoe I call it " so decided just not to give a full hollywood underneath but all went well woohoo! (found out she was on her period half way thru no wonder it was so sore even for her 1st time, as my mum said it was hardly painful atall )
I have got my confidence back obviously I will have room for improvement but on the whole I'm pretty damn pleased with my self lol xx

 

[Zo Zo]

Fantastic. Practice, practice, practice!