how long to do backfills

[lorraine l]

Hi, my name is lorraine and i'm new to this site. I've been a part time nail tech for just over a year now and done 4 courses with essential nails. I concentrate on acrylics and have been teaching myself how to backfill. Can anyone let me know how long it takes them to backfill without using an e-file. I have done a e-file course with Georgie Smedley but I can't really get on with it because I think i'm going to file into someones nail so I'd rather not use it.

I think I may be doing my nails a little thicker than they should be and maybe that's why it takes a long time. There is a lady I work with (office) and she rekons her backfills take an hour . How come mine take 2 to 2.5 hrs?

 

[sknight]

do you have a pic of your nails to see how thick they are? Also how much product do you remove before you begin to reapply? Talk us through your routine.

 

[lorraine l]

do you have a pic of your nails to see how thick they are? Also how much product do you remove before you begin to reapply? Talk us through your routine.

Hi, sorry I dont have a pic but I think my nails are 2mm thick so not sure if that is too thick? I prep the nails as usual and then I shorten them. I then file the free edge down as thin as I can ready for the new white acrylic ( i was told to file away all the white so there will be no shaddowing underneath). I then file the cuticle end, I dont usually need to do much filing as I dont get a lot of lift but some of my clients do get a little. Then I apply the new white and then the infill. I must admit I do spend a lot of time applying the white trying to get a perfect smile line. I would appreciate and advice you can give me.

Hope this is enough info for you.

 

[Jaffacake]

hiya, I havent done a set of nails in years but i'll try to help lol

when you say you prep the nails as normal then shorten them what prep are you doing? I would normally sanitise then shorten the nails, remove bulk and blend in cuticle area THEN I would prep the nail ready for the new product with scrubfresh or what ever you use..

I never used to remove all the white, just take the thickness out of where the old apex used to be as it would have moved forward, apply a tiny amount of white to make new smile line and brush it lightly towards the free edge to blend in with the existing white.. no need to remove all the old white..

there is a tutorial on here somewhere by Gigi, think its called forever french rebalancing or something like that? have a read if you havent aready, it makes a lot of sense. Hth x

 

[sknight]

This should help you loads
http://www.salongeek.com/nail-finishing-maintenance/14905-forever-french-rebalance.html
I think you may be spending too much time filing. As Sherrie says you don't have to remove all the white. Give it a read and let us know how you get on.

 

[Emma Bagnall]

hi, it takes me 1 1/2 hours, and it drives me crazy.... i generally thin the smile line and re-apply using a reverse application. but every time i do a backfill i cant help thinking i could do a new set in less time and earn more... but if my clients are happy, thats good enough for me... if a jobs worth doing and all that.. x

 

[lorraine l]

This should help you loads
http://www.salongeek.com/nail-finishing-maintenance/14905-forever-french-rebalance.html
I think you may be spending too much time filing. As Sherrie says you don't have to remove all the white. Give it a read and let us know how you get on.

Thank you so much for supplying this link. As you know I'm new to this site and I've been trying to work my way around it slowly so the link was very much appreciated. Anyway it was very helpful indeed and I cant wait to do my next backfill. I will let you know how I get on.

 

[nailzoo]

every time i do a backfill i cant help thinking i could do a new set in less time and earn more

Perhaps you should charge for your time ......

 

[nailzoo]

How come mine take 2 to 2.5 hrs?

You should do a One on One with a reputable trainer, it's much better than a video education.

 

[Doorie]

for how long have you been wprking?

in the begonning we all spent a looooooooong time on backfills. so practice..

but it seems a training wouldn't be too much as you don't seem sure about what to file and what not

 

[lorraine l]

You should do a One on One with a reputable trainer, it's much better than a video education.

Hi, I have done a few one to one's just to make sure that I was doing everything correct but the backfills are new to me so I will book again for more tuition. Video training was a lot harder I must admit and I would'nt recommend it to anyone.

 

[nailzoo]

but the backfills are new to me

sorry, but ..... how can backfill be new to you?

no offense, but i thought backfills were common knowledge for anyone with training.

 

[Jaffacake]

sorry, but ..... how can backfill be new to you?

no offense, but i thought backfills were common knowledge for anyone with training.

well from personal experience I did a 20 week VTCT course at college and we were not shown maintenance - AT ALL!! had about 4 different tutors and the last one just said 'oh dont worry about it, I can show you that in about 5 minutes!' but never did! wonder if it was because she was also a local lady that had a home salon and she was worried about the competition??

Had to do a real rebalance course before I was shown anything at all so I can sympathise here..

 

[lorraine l]

sorry, but ..... how can backfill be new to you?

no offense, but i thought backfills were common knowledge for anyone with training.

No offence taken. They are new to me because I was taught how to overlay and I have been using white tips.

 

[lorraine l]

No offence taken. They are new to me because I was taught how to overlay and I have been using white tips.

My maintenance training included infill and repair. Acrylic sculpt was a separate course which I didn't do.