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Ok so i'm still at college training but my problem is that when i do a set of l&p they seem to look dull :cry:
Once the enhancement is finished i apply cuticle oil and then buff with a 3 way buffer.
Am i doing this wrong or can anyone give me some advice? My tutor says they are fine but i am just not happy to send a client away with them looking that way.
 

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I get a good shine on mine with my 3 way but I also put a coat of UV30 on for better lasting shine.:hug:
 

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I get a good shine on mine with my 3 way but I also put a coat of UV30 on for better lasting shine.:hug:
So just a coat of my uv gel would be ok?
TBH i think it could be the products we are using too as everyone is having this problem but i'm sure i could get them to look much better, they just look so dull :confused:
 

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UV30 isn't a gel, its a top coat that helps prevent dicolouration and makes the whites look brighter. It's by EzFlow, no light needed for it :hug:
 

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ღMandyღ;688014 said:
So just a coat of my uv gel would be ok?
TBH i think it could be the products we are using too as everyone is having this problem but i'm sure i could get them to look much better, they just look so dull :confused:

what products are you using hun? if everyone is having the problem, maybe its not your technique

i also use something called miracle shine by EZflow, got it at PB and they chamois/buffer to go with it, its fab

hths xxx
 

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I to apply a coat of UV Topcoat after I have filed then wiped with Scrubfresh to remove any dust.
You can also just apply a coat of clear topcoat like Super Shiney just make sure you have filed and buffed any scratches then again wipe to clean any dust and oils.
 

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if your finishing your enhancement with say for e.g a 180 grit then going onto using a buffer straight after then you arent going to get a shine.......you need to work from 180, 240 to 1200 then buff........
i usually refine side walls and free edge with 180 then refine with 240 then use my ezflow sand shark (about 1200...i think) then buffer or ezflow snow monkey.
 

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if your finishing your enhancement with say for e.g a 180 grit then going onto using a buffer straight after then you arent going to get a shine.......you need to work from 180, 240 to 1200 then buff........
i usually refine side walls and free edge with 180 then refine with 240 then use my ezflow sand shark (about 1200...i think) then buffer or ezflow snow monkey.
I am with Joanne on this one......especially if you are just starting out you need to know how to work down your grits and then buff up to a high shine.
Maybe you just need to apply a bit more elbow grease in the final stages lol:lol:

Going straight to a gel topcoat or any kind of topcoat won't solve the underlying problem of not getting a smooth surface IMHO!

Some good info on this thread too.....http://www.salongeek.com/nail-geek/64831-trainee-needs-help.html
 

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if your finishing your enhancement with say for e.g a 180 grit then going onto using a buffer straight after then you arent going to get a shine.......you need to work from 180, 240 to 1200 then buff........
i usually refine side walls and free edge with 180 then refine with 240 then use my ezflow sand shark (about 1200...i think) then buffer or ezflow snow monkey.
I am with Joanne on this one......especially if you are just starting out you need to know how to work down your grits and then buff up to a high shine.
Maybe you just need to apply a bit more elbow grease in the final stages lol:lol:

Going straight to a gel topcoat or any kind of topcoat won't solve the underlying problem of not getting a smooth surface IMHO!
This seems to be the answer i was looking for. We have never been told this.
As for the elbow grease i have been tempted but knowing my luck i'd set the nail on fire with all the friction :eek: :lol:

I don't want to have to put a topcoat of any form onto the enhancements as it seems unnecessary abd i think will spoil the end result, i guess i would feel i was cheating too.
I do get a smooth surface it just never shines. Will invest in a 1200 file and give that a go.
Thanks for the help.
 

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hi

i used millenium when training and had the same trouble to begin with so its not you hun! the advice given above i am in agreement with.

good luck xxx:hug:
 

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I pretty much agree with the advice everyone else has given, I'm really happy with the shine on mine (I use creative products). Here's what I do:

File in with a 180, then start buffing down from 240, 1200, then use the buffer. I know some people add the solar oil after the 240 grit and buff it in from 1200 downwards, but I prefer to add my solar oil before using a 240, the 240 grit seems to work more oil into the nail.

Also, do you use super shiney topcoat? If so, use 2 coats. I was using only 1 and told my educator I didnt like it, and she told me to use 2 coats. Since doing that, my nails have been super shiney!!

Good luck.
 

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I never even thought of the filing, sorry Mandy. It was just a part of my traning so kind of ingrained from the start with each grit having a place in the final finish.

I wonder who came up with the names for these files! :lol:
 

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hi

i used millenium when training and had the same trouble to begin with so its not you hun! the advice given above i am in agreement with.

good luck xxx:hug:
Glad it's not just me then :lol: It's not even like we have the cheapest kit around, i've also had problems with the uv topcoat.
I feel a conversion course coming my way :lol:
 

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Also, do you use super shiney topcoat? If so, use 2 coats. I was using only 1 and told my educator I didnt like it, and she told me to use 2 coats. Since doing that, my nails have been super shiney!!

Good luck.
I don't use a topcoat at all. i always worry that if it ever slightly chips that the client is more likely to then start picking at the enhancement.
Thinking that if i can get a nice shine that i won't need one anyway.
 

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i dont tend to top coat enhancements just over enamel...
you can get packs at ezflow and creative of sample abrasives....a box with 1 of every abrasive in...........to start you off...
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ღMandyღ;688298 said:
Thanks hun. Also is it fine to just put a colour over the enhancement straight away?
i would base coat first...plus you will get a lovely enamel finish when the enhancement has been buffed....
 

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i would base coat first...plus you will get a lovely enamel finish when the enhancement has been buffed....
Cheers. I have to show that i can french polish in one of my assessments so i'll be taking your advice now and hopfully i'll do you proud :lol:
 

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