La tan disco 18%

[Nail Perfection]

I have 2 new clients coming to me tonight. They are young girls going on holiday tomorrow.

I have spoken with them on the phone and told them about all the different solutions i can offer. The girl I spoke with requested that they have maybe a 12 of 14%. I explained that I have tanrick 12% but also the new disco 18%.

I have only tested the disco on my tummy just to see how dark it was and it really wasn't so dark but certainly dark enough.

For those who have used the disco, would you suggest I spray them with this as I think they are looking for a dark tan. As I have not sprayed anyone with it yet I am not sure how it looks straight after application. They are coming at 7.30 so will probably just be heading home afterwards. Will they look really dark when they leave and will it come off on their sheets?

I am also wary of darker tans in that they may not wear off as well as others. I was going to suggest they take exfoliating gloves on holiday.
Any advice would be much appreciated.

Thank you!

 

[Nail Perfection]

Just had another new client on the phone who would like a dark tan on Thurs.

I have suggested I cld try the disco on her. She has tried fake bake and really doesn't like it, she feels it fades very quickly.

So if anyone is familiar with using the disco, I would love your feedback.

 

[number1kitty]

I use an 18% but its body builder dark. I have tried the LA and its not as dark as mine. I would be scared of doing anything higher than a 14% if they have never used your products before. What if they go too dark!?!

Also the darker the tan the quicker they fade! If they tan quickly and really well, and perhaps have a darker skin tone then you should be ok, but do not forget they may be swimming in chlorinated pools or the sea and applying spf's which can all speed the fading process.

Sell them a tan extender just in case.

xx

 

[Nail Perfection]

Thanks.

Yes I did think that the 18% would be ideal for a special night out but maybe not for a holiday.

I might just advise them to go for my tantrick 12. Mind you I haven't actually met them yet. They could be really fair skinned and then the 12 wouldn't be suitable. As they are new clients it's hard to judge what colour they actually want to go? I know they have had lots of spray tans before so I will have a chat with them and go through the pros and cons of having a really dark tan done for a holiday.

 

[angelina221]

I have used the disco and it is very dark!
I sprayed a friend of mine who is always going on sunbeds so was dark anyway. I sprayed him with the disco as he needed a darker colour and he loved it. It was dark for a good 7 days and faded nicely.
I use Fake Bake as well at the moment and i do find that it fades after the first shower.
The LA 10% is double dipped so that has a very dark guide colour which is akin to the disco but as it's double dipped it fades a lot after the first shower but it's good to try for people who want to see if they like that dark look. If they don't like it then it's ok as most of the guide colour comes off in the shower anyway.

 

[Jaffacake]

I dont think you can really decide until you have seen them and done the consultation. I only ever know what solution I will use if they phone and say they are lilly white and only want a natural glow, then I think 8.5% or if they are really dark skinned and tan really well in the sun, either 12% or 16%.... but I wouldnt spray someone with a really dark tan just because they say they want it really dark without seeing them first and then deciding if they can actually take it.

 

[Jaffacake]

I dont understand what you mean by it being double dipped?

 

[glitz]

but as it's double dipped it fades a lot

I have not heard that term either "what does it mean?"

 

[Nail Perfection]

I believe it means that the colour guide is quite dark in colour initially and when the tan develops it can sometimes be lighter than the colour guide.

Don't quote me but this is what I always thought?

 

[Jaffacake]

maybe, but that is what I find with some of the ones I use from Sienna, they initially spray on quite dark then develop even darker but when showered off they tone down a lot and look nice and natural...

 

[angelina221]

A spray solution will have DHA in it which determines the outcome of the tan. Bronzers are put in so that it has an immediate colour. Some spray tan solutions have no guide colour at all. It is the bronzers that give you the guide colour so you can see where it is applied. Double dipped has double bronzers in so although the initial guide colour will be dark the tan developing underneath won't be

 

[Nail Perfection]

I wonder what the thinking behind this "double" dipping was?

Is it purely so that the therapist can see clearly where they have tanned?

The mind boggles.

 

[Jaffacake]

ok so it has a very dark guide colour, thanks for explaining that. Surely they will only go that colour if their skin would naturally go that dark though? With the Disco I mean? even if you sprayed them with the double dip and they liked the dark look doesnt necessarily mean that can be achieved with the disco does it? Hope I'm making sense here! lol

 

[angelina221]

I have a girl that helps me out at the salon one day a week who is quite pale. She insisted i sprayed her with the disco as she wanted a dark look. Against my better judgement, i did and she loved it!
I must admit i kept laughing at her as it made her teeth look extremely white-lol
It was dark but a lovely brown colour and i was pleasantly surprised as i would never have suggested putting that dark a solution on someone so pale!

 

[Nail Perfection]

So to sum it up. When you spray someone with the disco, then the initial colour they are straight after the spray is going to be very similar to the developed tan. Where as with their 10% (double dipped) the colour they are straight after spraying is going to be darker than the actual tan when showered off?

I will just have to spray someone with the disco quick so I have the confidence to promote it!

 

[angelina221]

I wonder what the thinking behind this "double" dipping was?

Is it purely so that the therapist can see clearly where they have tanned?

The mind boggles.

When i did my training we used quite a few solutions. One of them had no bronzers in so you couldn't see where the tan had gone apart from where the skin was glistening. You would have to be very confident in your technique to use a solution with no bronzers.
I don't like the idea of guide colours that are darker than the outcome of the tan.
I sprayed my sister with the LA 10% and she loved it but was then disappointed when most of it came off in the shower.
I suppose it is a good idea to see if people would like the disco but i wouldn't stock the 10%. I have LA Gold instead which is 10.5% but isn't double dipped.
It's the same idea as someone spraying you twice. The guide colour is darker but the tan developing underneath isn't which is why i never spray people twice.
If you spray someone with say 10% then they have a 10% reaction. If you spray over them again they aren't going to get a 20% reaction they will still have a 10% reaction but they will have a darker guide colour which will come off in the shower.
Save your solution and the disappointment of clients!

 

[Nail Perfection]

Thanks Angelina, you have explained that very well.

I didn't order the 10% (thankfully). I choose the LA Gold and the Disco.

 

[angelina221]

Going back to your original question-one persons idea of dark is different to anothers.
A couple of weeks ago i had 3 girls come in wanting a tan. They were all quite pale. They had never had spray tans before but had used the creams at home.
One of the girls wanted the disco as she said she wanted to be really dark and never found the ones she used at home dark enough.
I told her that the disco would be too dark for her but she said she wanted dark.
I sprayed one of her friends first with Nouvatan 8% so she could see how that looked. She said she wanted to be darker than that so i said i would do her a 10%.
She agreed to this and after i sprayed her she loved it but said she wouldn't want to go any darker!
I would only use the disco on people i have sprayed before.
I spray a lot of people just before they go on holiday. I explain about chlorine in pools etc....
They just don't want to turn up lily white!

 

[Jaffacake]

But the colour guide is not always how the actual tan will turn out, you cant judge by how they look just after you have sprayed them how they will look the next day...

I dont think there is any difference when I spray someone with the 8.5% and the 12.5% Sienna, they both develop differently so I couldn't spray a clients friend with the 12.5% and ask them if they wanted to be darker than that because the next morning they will look completely different!

I also dont agree that they will be disappointed in the outcome if you spray them twice. I was trained to spray two light coats and this is how I always do it, It gives a streak free even tan with no chance of any missed bits, I bet I still use the same amount of solution as you too! So no loss of profit and no disappointed clients either! :green: they always develop darker than the initial spray and it doesnt all wash off in the shower.

 

[angelina221]

You're right that you can't tell by the guide colour. My husband sprayed me on Saturday with a light misting of 10.5% and it was barely noticeable but it developed into a lovely colour. It would have been very tempting for someone to spray over me again as the guide colour was pale but it didn't make any difference to how the tan developed. He hardly used any solution either.
The solution i sprayed the young girl with is my most popular one. I do 50-70 sprays a month and i would say 95% of my clients have Nouvatan so i usually know how a tan will turn out more or less although you can't know for sure as all clients are different.