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Looking for advice from any Geeks who do lash perming?

I have a client who had straight lashes on one eye and on the other the lashes are quite dense and curled in towards her eye. She said it has been annoying her and is actually beginning to affect her vision so thought she woul try getting them permed to correct. Her eyelid looks okay its not turning in, just the lashes. I expected it to be difficult to get the lashes adhered to the rod so I used a heated eyelash curler first to make things easier. I performed the treatemnt and some of the lashes have curled up but the majority are straight or still curling in. The other eye turned out fantastic and she was really pleased with the result. I suggested she come back in at the end of this week do we can try again on the eye that didnt take to well, but am concerned its going to keep fighting me!
I have been offering this service for over a year and its really popular this is the first time I have had any problem.
Anyone encountered this before? Any suggestions or advice would be really
appreciated.
MTIA
KxXx
 
i did eyelash perming at college but i dont like the treatment i'm not convinced perm solution near your eyes is a good thing !

Only thing i do remember is....if you dont use the correct roller size it can make the treatment not work.

But if the other eye worked then...its not that !!

sorry i cant be more helpful...i will have a bit more of a think on it !

Amb x
 
Nope it not the roller - I do a couple of lash perms each week and am quite confident with them.
Its more to do with the strength of the curve in her lash it just doesnt want to go the other way. How do I explain? - its like someone has taken her lashes off and put them back on upside down. I am surprised she could see to be honest as the tips of some of the lashes were almost touching her eye and the others were touching her lower lid. Never seen anything like it before.
KxXx
 
nemotail said:
Nope it not the roller - I do a couple of lash perms each week and am quite confident with them.
Its more to do with the strength of the curve in her lash it just doesnt want to go the other way. How do I explain? - its like someone has taken her lashes off and put them back on upside down. I am surprised she could see to be honest as the tips of some of the lashes were almost touching her eye and the others were touching her lower lid. Never seen anything like it before.
KxXx

yep, try it again then see how that goes, so you do a lot of em do you...hmmm may have to put the feelers out....!

What do you charge if you dont mind me asking? and which products you use?

Thanks

amb x
 
nemotail said:
Nope it not the roller - I do a couple of lash perms each week and am quite confident with them.
Its more to do with the strength of the curve in her lash it just doesnt want to go the other way. How do I explain? - its like someone has taken her lashes off and put them back on upside down. I am surprised she could see to be honest as the tips of some of the lashes were almost touching her eye and the others were touching her lower lid. Never seen anything like it before.
KxXx


This sounds really difficult and is very unusual!

The only thing I can suggest is to use lash glue. Wait for a few secs after applying the glue (for it to become tacky) then hold the orange stick in place for as long as possible til the lashes stick to the roller.

You may not get them all up in one treatment.

But have a good go?!

Goodluck.
 
MINKUS said:
i did eyelash perming at college but i dont like the treatment i'm not convinced perm solution near your eyes is a good thing !Amb x


Apparently the perms are safer than the heated rollers and the other strange looking curlers that you can get in Boots etc.

I've heard more horror stories about the strange looking curlers and heated ones than lash perms.

I think the perm is much more effective on shorter lashes.
 
ADiva1 said:
This sounds really difficult and is very unusual!

The only thing I can suggest is to use lash glue. Wait for a few secs after applying the glue (for it to become tacky) then hold the orange stick in place for as long as possible til the lashes stick to the roller.

You may not get them all up in one treatment.

But have a good go?!

Goodluck.

Yep Andrea, this is the procedure for lash perming - you adhere the roller to the eyelid using adhesive and then the lashes to the roller using the adhesive. Guess I am just going to try again and hope they do as they are told this time!

Perms are effective on all lengths of lashes provided you use the right size roller. My Sister in Law has really long straight lashes and the effect is amazing. Fantastic for anyone who has difficulty with mascara as it does so much more than a lash tint. My clients love it and the chance to lie there for 50 minutes relaxing! I offer a Solar manicure scrub and paraffin dip for their hands before I start so that after the 50 minutes their hands feel heavenly.

Amber ~ I use Thuya Lash Perm, from Ellisons - you perm then tint straight afterwards with Thuya Tint. clicky here for my prices and details. I have never had any issues with contra-actions - be sure to do a patch test though.

HTH

KxXx
 
i tip i learnt with perming difficult lashes is to curl them first with an eyelash curler then they stey in place around the rod better while the solution works
 
Hi!

Just replying to this thread because I had a perm yesterday and the results have been disastrous. My eyelashes now look smaller, the tips are bent to the sides, the curls is more like a sqaure... Horribe!

Does anybody know what to do to fix it? (if there's anything at all that can be done?)

I would greatly appreciate the help.

Cheers
 
You could go into a steam room and may help the kink to drop as this one of the things you need to avoid after a perm and perhaps keep using a heated lash curler to comb through.

Other than that you need to go back and see if they can re-do them. Correctly.

Its such a shame that you had a terrible result - done properly its stunning and subtle. The result is not getting the lash around the curler properly - all lashes must be carefully positioned on the rod (I use a toothpick to seperate and re-position before the solution is applied) a check and double check is well worth it for best results.

xx
 
Hey Pazzi,

Thanks a lot for your suggestions, I'll really try that, although not sure it will work (I had a hot shower yesterday evening and it did not affect the result).

Do you know any places in London you could recommend? i'm definitely not going back where I had it done!

As you say, it should be a subtle effect, not like my lashes are all tangled and wirey. Instead of longer more curled lashes they look much smaller and like ants legs! So not what I was looking for...
 
your therapist has used the wrong sized curling rod.This is why u have a square shape.Where did you get it done?
I would wait for a few weeks and let it drop out a little.Try not to use eyelash curlers as they are bad for ur lashes.Maybe get sum extention ones from boots to see if it takes the look of it away.
If you do go back to get it done you should leave it at least 8 weeks i would say,as by perming them you are stripping the hair of its strength and they could end up breaking off.
Hope this helps you!!
 
Hi Kylie,

I had them done at a salon in Covent Garden (not sure about naming places here?). I am actually back rigth after the office this evening to see what she suggests.

I am really unhappy by the result especially considering it was not cheaper than the average for this treatment.

Will keep you updated ladies...
 
Hi!

Just replying to this thread because I had a perm yesterday and the results have been disastrous. My eyelashes now look smaller, the tips are bent to the sides, the curls is more like a sqaure... Horribe!

Does anybody know what to do to fix it? (if there's anything at all that can be done?)

I would greatly appreciate the help.

Cheers

I had my lashes permed with the wrong rod in college a few weeks ago.
Just intime for christmas and i can say i was a little upset - but hey we are learning what can you do.

I know this is a little late now, i was recomended to use extra eyemakeup remover and coat my lashes with petroleum jelly to losen the curl. it worked a little they now look a little less like circles and no longer get tangled together. the petroleum jelly also makes them nice and soft after the perming treatment which can make them a little corse.


i think ill be sticking to my curlers from now on.

DD
 
I have just started doing lash perms and the effect I am getting is not quite right. Can you tell me do you put the perm lotion at the root of the lash or about half way up the lash? I was taught to put it half way up but have read to apply it at the root.

Any advice would be much appriciated!

:irked:
 
hey have you asked your client if she has put on mascara the day before adn the of the treatment? as this may effect the results..even tho one eye is workin there might be a buld up of make up (mascara left) if this doesnt work then it will just be the way ur clients eyelashes are... :)
 
To relax an overpermed eyelash, you can try lots of mascara on wet eyelashes. That is often enough to relax them. If that doens't work, then very carefully comb waving cream through the eyelashes using an eyelash comb until they start to relax. Follow this up with neutraliser combed through and they should stay relaxed.

Hope this helps.

Joy x
 
Take a look at LVL by Nouveau Lashes, it is way more advanced than a traditional lash perm. Straightens the lashes rather than curling then to give the lashes the apperance of being longer. Fantastic results!
 
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  2. Under no circumstances should you seek to treat simple trichiasis yourself. Instead seek the advice of a medical doctor or a vision specialist such as an ophthalmologist. Unless complications arise, the treatment may involve lubricated eye drops destroying the hair through electrolysis, followed by a round of antibiotics to fight off infection. Your ophthalmologist may also recommend hot and cold compresses to reduce the swelling.
 
Take a look at LVL by Nouveau Lashes, it is way more advanced than a traditional lash perm. Straightens the lashes rather than curling then to give the lashes the apperance of being longer. Fantastic results!

Have to agree with Lauren, once you LVL you wont perm with normal shields again. Perming does look old fashioned, and not nice when you see an LVL application.

Su x
 

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