L'Oreal advice please!
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Prettyflamingo
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Ok that's great , lots of people saying colours look green , any tips to avoid this ? Anything that makes a brunettey colour? Sorry guys just need to be aware of pros and cons until u can get to grips on my course , I literally have only ever known wella!!! Restricted i know!!! I really love anything with a brunette tone , I'm quite gutted to see no brunette , I need a substitute !!! X
Prettyflamingo
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that's great thankyou , so , as I said I'm a wella only girl ( restricted I know!!) and I love a brunette tone , lots of geeks saying loreal is quite greeny , any tips on avoiding this , also what colours/mixes may emulate a wella /7 ? Thankyou!!
Prettyflamingo
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Ha ha ok I'll stay away!! /7 is brunette which is great as a lowlight on really light hair as lovely beige neutral colours can be created also in colour corrections as it is a mix of all primary colours , I'm worried about not having it ha!!
Hey... L'oreal is by far my fave colour brand 
A couple of rules you always have to follow are...
Numbering system;
First Number denotes depth
After the . the numbers denote reflect or tone
The first number after the . is the primary reflect and the second is a secondary reflect.
.03 Natural Gold
( If there is a 0 before the secondary reflect it means it is more natural in appearence)
.3 Gold
.33 Deep Gold
.30 Intense Gold
White Hair Coverage;
Majirel.. Any Shade that had a box around the number (on the box the tube comes in) will give 100% coverage. This inculdes your natural basics, deep natural basics (4.0 etc), natural golden basics (7.03 etc) and golden basics (5.3 etc).
0-50% White use your target shade
50-100% Mix half target shade and half corresponding basic
( If it's an cool shade use a natural basic so 1/2 5 + 1/2 5.12 If it's a warm shade you mix a golden or natural golden basic 1/2 7.3 + 1/2 7.34 )
INOA.. 0-70% Use target shade
70-100% Mix half target shade and half base.
( Unlike Majirel, INOA doesn't have Golden basics so you add base. In the INOA shade chart it has a swatch that shows 70% white hair so its a really good tool to use if youre unsure )
Darkening rule;
This only really applies to Majirel. If you're are going more that 2 shades darker on natural hair you must mix in half golden basic.
So if your NB (Natural Base) is a 7 and your TS is 4.15 you mix 1/2 4.15 and half 4.3
Pre colouring;
You can pre colour with most of the families but the most easiest to use is DiaLight...
Cool shades 10 - 9 depth 9.03, 8 - 7 depth 8.3, 6 and below use 6.3
Warm shades 10 - 9 depth 9.03, 8-7 depth 8.34, 6 and below use 6.34
L'oreal pay a lot of attention the undercoats.. If the undercoat is going to interfere with your target shade (if its stronger than the colour you want mix in a bit of base to subdue it).
I've just moved from L'oreal to Wella so if you want any conversions or anything like let me know.. It's best if you don't try and convert anything and you treat them as completely different
Oh and L'oreal highlifts aren't as nice as Wella ones.. They always come up a lot warmer.. So don't go by the shade chart just think of what the tone is going to do to the undercoat...
Oh Oh! and INOA is AMAZING!! You just have to apply plenty of colour! So at least a tube if not more on the roots! The hair has to be saturated!
There are just a few.. If you have any more questions give us a shout.
Hope that helps?
A couple of rules you always have to follow are...
Numbering system;
First Number denotes depth
After the . the numbers denote reflect or tone
The first number after the . is the primary reflect and the second is a secondary reflect.
.03 Natural Gold
( If there is a 0 before the secondary reflect it means it is more natural in appearence)
.3 Gold
.33 Deep Gold
.30 Intense Gold
White Hair Coverage;
Majirel.. Any Shade that had a box around the number (on the box the tube comes in) will give 100% coverage. This inculdes your natural basics, deep natural basics (4.0 etc), natural golden basics (7.03 etc) and golden basics (5.3 etc).
0-50% White use your target shade
50-100% Mix half target shade and half corresponding basic
( If it's an cool shade use a natural basic so 1/2 5 + 1/2 5.12 If it's a warm shade you mix a golden or natural golden basic 1/2 7.3 + 1/2 7.34 )
INOA.. 0-70% Use target shade
70-100% Mix half target shade and half base.
( Unlike Majirel, INOA doesn't have Golden basics so you add base. In the INOA shade chart it has a swatch that shows 70% white hair so its a really good tool to use if youre unsure )
Darkening rule;
This only really applies to Majirel. If you're are going more that 2 shades darker on natural hair you must mix in half golden basic.
So if your NB (Natural Base) is a 7 and your TS is 4.15 you mix 1/2 4.15 and half 4.3
Pre colouring;
You can pre colour with most of the families but the most easiest to use is DiaLight...
Cool shades 10 - 9 depth 9.03, 8 - 7 depth 8.3, 6 and below use 6.3
Warm shades 10 - 9 depth 9.03, 8-7 depth 8.34, 6 and below use 6.34
L'oreal pay a lot of attention the undercoats.. If the undercoat is going to interfere with your target shade (if its stronger than the colour you want mix in a bit of base to subdue it).
I've just moved from L'oreal to Wella so if you want any conversions or anything like let me know.. It's best if you don't try and convert anything and you treat them as completely different
Oh and L'oreal highlifts aren't as nice as Wella ones.. They always come up a lot warmer.. So don't go by the shade chart just think of what the tone is going to do to the undercoat...
Oh Oh! and INOA is AMAZING!! You just have to apply plenty of colour! So at least a tube if not more on the roots! The hair has to be saturated!
There are just a few.. If you have any more questions give us a shout.
Hope that helps?
Bluerinse
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Hey... L'oreal is by far my fave colour brand
A couple of rules you always have to follow are...
Numbering system;
First Number denotes depth
After the . the numbers denote reflect or tone
The first number after the . is the primary reflect and the second is a secondary reflect.
.03 Natural Gold
( If there is a 0 before the secondary reflect it means it is more natural in appearence)
.3 Gold
.33 Deep Gold
.30 Intense Gold
White Hair Coverage;
Majirel.. Any Shade that had a box around the number (on the box the tube comes in) will give 100% coverage. This inculdes your natural basics, deep natural basics (4.0 etc), natural golden basics (7.03 etc) and golden basics (5.3 etc).
0-50% White use your target shade
50-100% Mix half target shade and half corresponding basic
( If it's an cool shade use a natural basic so 1/2 5 + 1/2 5.12 If it's a warm shade you mix a golden or natural golden basic 1/2 7.3 + 1/2 7.34 )
INOA.. 0-70% Use target shade
70-100% Mix half target shade and half base.
( Unlike Majirel, INOA doesn't have Golden basics so you add base. In the INOA shade chart it has a swatch that shows 70% white hair so its a really good tool to use if youre unsure )
Darkening rule;
This only really applies to Majirel. If you're are going more that 2 shades darker on natural hair you must mix in half golden basic.
So if your NB (Natural Base) is a 7 and your TS is 4.15 you mix 1/2 4.15 and half 4.3
Pre colouring;
You can pre colour with most of the families but the most easiest to use is DiaLight...
Cool shades 10 - 9 depth 9.03, 8 - 7 depth 8.3, 6 and below use 6.3
Warm shades 10 - 9 depth 9.03, 8-7 depth 8.34, 6 and below use 6.34
L'oreal pay a lot of attention the undercoats.. If the undercoat is going to interfere with your target shade (if its stronger than the colour you want mix in a bit of base to subdue it).
I've just moved from L'oreal to Wella so if you want any conversions or anything like let me know.. It's best if you don't try and convert anything and you treat them as completely different
Oh and L'oreal highlifts aren't as nice as Wella ones.. They always come up a lot warmer.. So don't go by the shade chart just think of what the tone is going to do to the undercoat...
Oh Oh! and INOA is AMAZING!! You just have to apply plenty of colour! So at least a tube if not more on the roots! The hair has to be saturated!
There are just a few.. If you have any more questions give us a shout.
Hope that helps?
So for a salon to make money and be happy with INOA you need to mix at least 4 tubes for root coverage and charge £60!!
I think not!
Exactly! And they will still come in 6 weeks later looking Khaki
Bluerinse
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And with straw like hair!
Prettyflamingo
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Ok guys update!!! Had a few clients now , used .31 also .35 liked both but I can definately tell they are far cooler in tone than wella , also the colour in the bowl freaks me out slightly but in general good results so far !! Thanks guys!!! X
Bluerinse
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I'm a L'Oreal colour specialist in my salon I charge £55 for a root application, then extra when I'm taking colour through. Obviously varying on length and density of hair. It's an expensive product and your should charge accordingly. If people want the best product for their hair then they should pay for it....
Bluerinse
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In that case why are they paying for inoa? It's clearly not the best product at all. How can do many stylists out there that have worked with it not like it and say it doesn't stand up to what it's been designed for! loreal have succeeded in turning everyone away! And now onto more advanced ranges.
See I disagree. I've started to use wella recently and I'd say nothing in any of the wella ranges comes close to the cosmetic benefits that loreal can offer...
JessieJames
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I really like inoa, the girls I work with said it wasn't too good when you had to mix three different tubes to make it, but the new way is brilliant. At my salon we charge about 15% more for inoa. I'm in Australia though and I am sure the ingredients in the colours vary to Europe !
