Make-up professional v high street?

[Julia*]

Hi everyone

I'm currently using a professional make-up brand which the distributor is going to cease supplying so I need to look around

Unlike skincare - which everyone advocates professional only ranges, it seems that things are a bit less clear with make-up. I've seen lots of ranges mentionned that are available in most high streets - MAC, Bobbi Brown, Chanel, Benefit etc

I like the idea of professional only as it helps with retailing, especially lipsticks etc to brides.

Would you stick with pro only - or mix and match? And when purchasing high street brands, Chanel for example, are geeks paying high street prices or is there a trade suppliers for any of these ranges?

Sorry for so many questions, but you always seem to come through with great answers!

Jx

 

[SusanEvian]

Many high end Pro's, who do TV, and celeb work use MAC, Nars and many others...... yes they can be bought on the High St.

You will get countless replies talking about mineral makeup....Lilly Lolo and more. but its down to choice.

Su x

 

[SusanEvian]

PS and real pros will NOT stick to one brand, they pick the best from each.

No single brand will have the best of everything, ever.

For instance Bobby Brown brushes are commonly used by top artists.

Su x

 

[catiebloo]

Like others have said, many MUAs use products/tools from many different ranges available both exclusively & on the high street. There's no one range that has everything perfect!

Regarding mineral makeup....i've read a few reviews about using mineral makeup for brides & the general consensus has been it's a bit of a no no due to the flashback on the camera causing the bride to appear very very white! Much the same as an SPF does. If you search on Model Mayhem & Makeup Advice Forum there should be threads on there. If i recall correctly, the worst powder for doing this is Bare Minerals.

Apart from MAC who offer a pro discount, i'm not aware of any other high street brand having the same type of discount/trade scheme...i may be wrong though!

 

[Sharkster]

Apart from MAC who offer a pro discount, i'm not aware of any other high street brand having the same type of discount/trade scheme...i may be wrong though!

Bobbi Brown, Illamasqua, Shu Uemura and Benefit do offer discount but as with MAC certain criteria has to be met.

 

[blush09]

i currently use mac, bb, nars, laura mercier, clinique, and chanel but also plan to look into artdeco when i get back from mat leave .. pretty much every mua i know uses a mixture of high st and pro cosmetics, the only girl i know who uses pro makeup is salon based, and doesnt specialise in makeup, more beauty services . HTH
ps. as sharker mentioned you can get varying amounts of pro discounts from other companies such as bb, benefit, screenface etc

 

[Velveteen]

Depends on what your definition of professional MUA is.

High street is about image, not necessarily quality. As a professional, I wouldn't touch a lot of what has been mentioned here in a paying job (ie fashion shoot, wedding photography). I stick to a few lines that are available for specialist use and wouldn't consider selling them to my clientele either. I'll use lesser lines with a great PR package such as Bobbi Brown for example, for retail. And it works a treat.

By all means, stick to high street retail and not professional as your clientele won't know how to use them properly and will end up disappointed.

 

[ArtdecoCouture]

PS and real pros will NOT stick to one brand, they pick the best from each.

No single brand will have the best of everything, ever.

For instance Bobby Brown brushes are commonly used by top artists.

Su x

ps.... we actually work in the industry... TV, Film and Glossy magazines...

1604 products, the number one selling brand in colour cosmetics in Germany... powders and liquids all manufactured in Japan, amazingly similar to Kanebo and Shiseido, like amazingly as if they come from the same facilities.

ps. Da Vinci make the best brushes in the world.(hand-made, a lost art)... ****by Brown, guffaw...

 

[ArtdecoCouture]

Like others have said, many MUAs use products/tools from many different ranges available both exclusively & on the high street. There's no one range that has everything perfect!

Regarding mineral makeup....i've read a few reviews about using mineral makeup for brides & the general consensus has been it's a bit of a no no due to the flashback on the camera causing the bride to appear very very white! Much the same as an SPF does. If you search on Model Mayhem & Makeup Advice Forum there should be threads on there. If i recall correctly, the worst powder for doing this is Bare Minerals.

Apart from MAC who offer a pro discount, i'm not aware of any other high street brand having the same type of discount/trade scheme...i may be wrong though!

Artdeco offer a 50% trade discount, which is how come people can afford a whole kit from one manufacturer.

Liquid mineral is not reflective. Also a good mineral foundation applied properly gives a flawless finish without the reflectivity.

Check out the Lesley Garret last CD, all mineral power or on our facebook the Suzanne Shaw wedding from Hello... all Artdeco mineral.

ps. We have 1604 products and we guarantee you can do an exceptional professional job with 1 brand! We have spent 25 years developing the products and we aren't manufacturing product in China, unlike some, now that they have been bought over by the multinational. We are still privately independent and proud of it.

 

[ArtdecoCouture]

Depends on what your definition of professional MUA is.

High street is about image, not necessarily quality. As a professional, I wouldn't touch a lot of what has been mentioned here in a paying job (ie fashion shoot, wedding photography). I stick to a few lines that are available for specialist use and wouldn't consider selling them to my clientele either. I'll use lesser lines with a great PR package such as Bobbi Brown for example, for retail. And it works a treat.

By all means, stick to high street retail and not professional as your clientele won't know how to use them properly and will end up disappointed.

Professional Makeup artiste. That is a makeup artiste that earns money for applying makeup products. There are different types of MUA but they are all skilled professionals. There is a ridiculous and unfounded amount of snobbery out there and it is wrong.

It takes talent, skill and dedication to apply makeup whatever the situation, there are good and bad MUA in every area.

Same as the nail techs who work in the media, none of them are any better than the best salon nail techs. People who work on the high street should be loud and proud of what they do!

I have taken salon nail techs to London Fashion week, high street makeup artists to the catwalk, and TV work. The only difference is the opportunity that some have and how they capitalise on it, not their inate ability.