Manicure Procedure Help!

[Sharkster]

Hi Nail Geeks!

I have previously had training in Manicures but recently decided to upgrade my quals to ITEC as I thought it was more well regarded. I am in a bit of a fix with regards to when the cuticle remover is applied and removed in the manicure procedure which I believe to be different to how my tutor has taught us. The text books and course info (and my previous training) state the following:

blah, blah
Soak
Apply Cuticle Remover
Hoof
Cuticle Knife (if required)
Cuticle Nippers (if required)
Remover Cuticle Remover
blah, blah

We however have been taught the following:

blah, blah
Soak
Cuticle Knife
Hoof
Cuticle Nippers (if required)
Apply Cuticle remover
Remove Cuticle remover
blah, blah

I have contacted ITEC to check what their procedure is but was advised that they do not discuss directly with students. I have challenged with with my tutor but am concerned about coming to blows with her about it which I don't want. Can any of you guys help?

Em xx

P.S. Wishing you all a fabulous Christmas & New Year:hug:

 

[Pink Pink Pink]

Firstly, NEVER use a cuticle knife dry on the nail. The nail bed should be wet.
The first procedure is the right one. What good is applying the cuticle remover after you've done all the cuticle work ????

I'm doing body massage at college and my tutors routine wasn't wrong but I prefer to start the massage on the front and finish on the back and my tutor the other way around. I asked her if I could do it my way and she said of course - as long as all the parts gert done.

I'd have asked your tutor informally: "I have found a way which I think works better for me, so I was wondering how important it is to follow the routine? Would it be OK if I did it this way as I find it easier to remove the cuticle. I'd do it this way in industry so I figured I'd start as I mean to go on." Or words to that effect, that way you aren't 'questioning' her practices and when the other students see your way, they would see how much better it works.
Maybe try that if its the same on this course. Although I doubt it will be.

xxxxxxxxx

 

[kylieb]

I think everyone will teach you different.
I was taught to
sanitise
file/buff
cuticle cream / oil
soak
cuticle remover
hoof
cuticle knife (using water from bowl)
Then nippers.

You can do it how you like when you are qualified
xxx

 

[Mrs.Clooney]

I have already shared my thoughts with Emma on this subject, but will say here that I cannot understand why the tutor would teach differently to the ITEC college notes? And I cannot for the life of me see the point in using a cuticle knife (I hate the damn things anyway) before the hoof and BEFORE cuticle remover! Just does not make sense!

When I was at college, there were times our tutor did things differently to the others and when questioned (which you have a right to do) certain aspects were corrected or changed. Tutors are not perfect and some of them get it wrong.

I hope you get this sorted out and as already mentioned, follow their procedure for training purposes and then do what you are comfortable with when you leave.

I have since used my cuticle knife to remove paint along the skirting boards of my salon .

 

[XxBeckyxX]

I am training with ITEC atm...we have been taught to....

Wipe over with antiseptic
File
Buff
Cuticle cream then soak
Push down cuticles with hoof stick
Apply cuticle remover making sure the nail is always wet
Cuticle knife
Cuticle nippers
Massage
'Squeak' nail plate
Polish

Hope this helps!!

 

[Sharkster]

Firstly, NEVER use a cuticle knife dry on the nail. The nail bed should be wet.
The first procedure is the right one. What good is applying the cuticle remover after you've done all the cuticle work ????

I'm doing body massage at college and my tutors routine wasn't wrong but I prefer to start the massage on the front and finish on the back and my tutor the other way around. I asked her if I could do it my way and she said of course - as long as all the parts gert done.

I'd have asked your tutor informally: "I have found a way which I think works better for me, so I was wondering how important it is to follow the routine? Would it be OK if I did it this way as I find it easier to remove the cuticle. I'd do it this way in industry so I figured I'd start as I mean to go on." Or words to that effect, that way you aren't 'questioning' her practices and when the other students see your way, they would see how much better it works.
Maybe try that if its the same on this course. Although I doubt it will be.

xxxxxxxxx

Thank you Pink, Pink, Pink! I was sure that was the case but I never question things in the right way which usually lands me in trouble! I like your suggestion for the 'fluffy' approach so I will see how it goes! xx

 

[Sharkster]

I have since used my cuticle knife to remove paint along the skirting boards of my salon .

Love it!!!!!!!

 

[suzie49]

I have since used my cuticle knife to remove paint along the skirting boards of my salon .

:lol: Brilliant :hug:

 

[stoney]

See now I do things COMPLETELY different!

My manicure procedure (at the moment using Sparitual) is:

sanitise
file/refine free edge
apply cuti-clean (one hand at a time)
remove cuticle with pusher
nip non-living tissue (if appropriate)
wipe over nails with polish remover to remove cuti-clean
massage
wipe nails over again to remove oils
then either buff to shine
or
remove shine from nail plate, dehydrate and
apply base coat,polish and top coat.

I hardly ever soak nails now, unless cuticles are extremely overgrown and stubborn.

My assistant has just done the 'Manicure/Pedicure' module at college, and I have to say, I was totally disgusted with some of the rubbish she was coming back to me with. The colleges are so out of date it is unvbelieveable.

I'm no expert I know but seriously, something needs to be done about it.

 

[kylieb]

I have already shared my thoughts with Emma on this subject, but will say here that I cannot understand why the tutor would teach differently to the ITEC college notes? And I cannot for the life of me see the point in using a cuticle knife (I hate the damn things anyway) before the hoof and BEFORE cuticle remover! Just does not make sense!

When I was at college, there were times our tutor did things differently to the others and when questioned (which you have a right to do) certain aspects were corrected or changed. Tutors are not perfect and some of them get it wrong.

I hope you get this sorted out and as already mentioned, follow their procedure for training purposes and then do what you are comfortable with when you leave.

I have since used my cuticle knife to remove paint along the skirting boards of my salon .

Totally agree with you there!
My tutors were the same. I would get told off by my tutor for something another tutor had told me to do. It's so annoying, as at the time it is hard enough learning the procedure without them changing it all the time!
I hate the cuticle knife too. What is the point in it? Hoof stick and nippers all the way lol
I may have to put mine to use on my skirtings too hee hee :hug: xxx

 

[Victorialyce]

What is a cuticle knife? I learnt in Australia and we were never told anything about cuticle knife?... hmm

My procedure is :
sanitize
file/clip
cuticle remover
soak
pushers
cuticle cutters
cuticle oil
exfoliate and massage
buff
get rid of the oils then paint. works just fine for me:lol:

 

[Mrs.Clooney]

See now I do things COMPLETELY different!

My manicure procedure (at the moment using Sparitual) is:

sanitise
file/refine free edge
apply cuti-clean (one hand at a time)
remove cuticle with pusher
nip non-living tissue (if appropriate)
wipe over nails with polish remover to remove cuti-clean
massage
wipe nails over again to remove oils
then either buff to shine
or
remove shine from nail plate, dehydrate and
apply base coat,polish and top coat.

I hardly ever soak nails now, unless cuticles are extremely overgrown and stubborn.

My assistant has just done the 'Manicure/Pedicure' module at college, and I have to say, I was totally disgusted with some of the rubbish she was coming back to me with. The colleges are so out of date it is unvbelieveable.

I'm no expert I know but seriously, something needs to be done about it.

Do you use nail polish remover to remove oils after the massage? The reason I ask, is because nail polish remover contains ingredients to help counteract the drying effects of the polish remover, which may affect the application and longevity of the painted nails. Would it not be better to just keep to nail sanitizers which properly dehydrate the nail?

 

[stoney]

Do you use nail polish remover to remove oils after the massage? The reason I ask, is because nail polish remover contains ingredients to help counteract the drying effects of the polish remover, which may affect the application and longevity of the painted nails. Would it not be better to just keep to nail sanitizers which properly dehydrate the nail?

Yes I do wipe over with nail polish remover to remove the oils, but then if you had read further on, I then eithier buff to a shine or...remove shine, DEHYDRATE and then polish.

 

[RAQUEL]

See now I do things COMPLETELY different!

My manicure procedure (at the moment using Sparitual) is:

sanitise
file/refine free edge
apply cuti-clean (one hand at a time)
remove cuticle with pusher
nip non-living tissue (if appropriate)
wipe over nails with polish remover to remove cuti-clean
massage
wipe nails over again to remove oils
then either buff to shine
or
remove shine from nail plate, dehydrate and
apply base coat,polish and top coat.

I hardly ever soak nails now, unless cuticles are extremely overgrown and stubborn.

My assistant has just done the 'Manicure/Pedicure' module at college, and I have to say, I was totally disgusted with some of the rubbish she was coming back to me with. The colleges are so out of date it is unvbelieveable.

I'm no expert I know but seriously, something needs to be done about it.

i beg to differ there- what evidence do you have that the colleges are so out of date? Did you do your formal manicure training at one? I will defend college education in nail services to the hilt- im afraid it is sometimes the lecturers that are out of date as the criteria that has to be followed and evidence given practially and theorectially by the awarding bodies is intense.NOT ALL colleges are bad.. just like the private sector good and bad training is out there. The standard of manicures is really high in someplaces - especially in my classes. It annoys me that college training is so often rubbished- i trained privately and in colleges and my problem is that people own salons with private nail tech certificates but Nothing in manicure or health and safety which are a pivotal basis to be a good nail tech
Like me you feel something has to be done about the standards taught in college- we need more skilled nail techs to teach it.. so go out there- do the 5 years beauty and education qualifications like i did and make a difference- no matter how small. Your routine is exactly the same as mine in the salon- like someone has already said.. once you pass you adapt you routine/services to suit..