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Hi Guys!

Here is my first full set of french nail extensions for a client (i know they are quite long thats how she wanted them) What do you think any tips or any problems here?

Need some good old honest geek advice :green:
 
They look lovely.

I'm not really that experienced enough to give advice, and maybe what I say now is wrong but its what I would do if I were to do another set.

If I were to do another set of nails I'd aim to have the white tips not quite so much towards the cuticle, but thats my opinion and there is probably a very good reason why yours are like that .... had the client got a very short natural nail plate or was a nail biter??

Like I say don't take it personal it will be interested if someone corrects me because then I'll learn something too :confused:
 
They look lovely.

I'm not really that experienced enough to give advice, and maybe what I say now is wrong but its what I would do if I were to do another set.

If I were to do another set of nails I'd aim to have the white tips not quite so much towards the cuticle, but thats my opinion and there is probably a very good reason why yours are like that .... had the client got a very short natural nail plate or was a nail biter??

Like I say don't take it personal it will be interested if someone corrects me because then I'll learn something too :confused:

Thank you for your compliment and advice :hug:
Yes i also think i could have brought it up further a little rather than down so much but her nails were very short i wanted to be sure it was securely on xx
 
When I went to a beauty show one year I saw a demo whereby they built a natural nail with a natural pink colour then they applied the tip and gel (or was it L&P - can't remember) as normal, this then made the white tip more closer to the natual tip, don't remember who the company was though.
 
Hiya .. well done for posting and i am aware these are you first full set on a client...so i know that you know they are far from perfect....As you have asked for critique i can only give my honest thoughts...

The first thing that worried me are the red rings of fire.....why are her nail beds so damaged...?

I cant quite make out if these are white tips or not...usually white tips are a perfect smile line with sharp corners at each end of the smile (ears) but yours have no sharp corners...the corners are rounded....did you alter these if they tips...? they also don't appear to fit the nail bed.

There is some product on the skin at the sides of the nail...this will result in lifting.

There also doesn't appear to be any apex....the nail bed area looks very flat.

There is too much white for her nail bed making them look unbalanced....if you reduce the length, therefore the white you would get a much more natural and flattering effect.

The sidewalls need refining to straighten them up...and there are bubbles....but the overall surface of the nail looks smooth...and there seems to be a nice line of light on a couple. Watch for too much product in zone 3 as again this can cause lifting and make the growth more prominent between rebalances.

Hope this helps and again...well done for posting.
 
Thank you for your compliment and advice :hug:
Yes i also think i could have brought it up further a little rather than down so much but her nails were very short i wanted to be sure it was securely on xx

I hope I don't come across as rude, I really mean well, I promise, but I'm sure that if you put the tip further towards the free edge, they would actually be stronger, as more nail plate would be able to bond with acrylic product, and the strength is in the product, not the tip, so please don't worry about this in future:hug:
Also, I notice in the pic that the thumb apex needs to be built up a bit more. Hope you don't think I'm being too critical, and well done for posting!:)
 
The first thing that worried me are the red rings of fire.....why are her nail beds so damaged?

I have to agree hun that was the first thing i noticed too.

Well done on posting thou hun but the thing for me is there is too much white which makes the nails look very stumpy.

I hope you dont think im being mean im just being honest.:hug:
 
Calm down you nutters i post the critique for a reason lol and thats to get help.

When she arrived i looked at her nails and noticed they wernt in that good condition i havent a clue about the rings of fire? She had previously had acrylics on her nails and she had them removed but the previous nail technician didnt remove it all but i havent a clue why they looked like that?
What do i do when a client in future has nails like this?

I did use white tips im not too sure why the edges dont look right as i didnt change anything on the ears at all. Her nail plates were very small and i probably should have not pushed the tip down that much i did advice the girl to have them shorter but she was adiment she wanted them long

What can i do to improve myself? I feel like i dont know anything but am i suposed to? or am i ok not to know everything and not notice my mistake when they are in front of me?xx
 
Calm down you nutters i post the critique for a reason lol and thats to get help.

When she arrived i looked at her nails and noticed they wernt in that good condition i havent a clue about the rings of fire? She had previously had acrylics on her nails and she had them removed but the previous nail technician didnt remove it all but i havent a clue why they looked like that?
What do i do when a client in future has nails like this?

I did use white tips im not too sure why the edges dont look right as i didnt change anything on the ears at all. Her nail plates were very small and i probably should have not pushed the tip down that much i did advice the girl to have them shorter but she was adiment she wanted them long

What can i do to improve myself? I feel like i dont know anything but am i suposed to? or am i ok not to know everything and not notice my mistake when they are in front of me?xx

If your anything like me your just glad to get the process over with with a set of nails looking like something and the client happy with them, I'm not that confident in Nail Ext anymore as I had a nasty client tell me a few home truths and it put me off doing them (i had so much passion back in the day I trained) so your doing all the right things and asking for critism (sp?) and hopefully take on board and improve - well done you!

I wished I had the confidence to have done that years ago and maybe I wouldn't be so scared to do nail ext on strangers now hehe.
 
If your anything like me your just glad to get the process over with with a set of nails looking like something and the client happy with them, I'm not that confident in Nail Ext anymore as I had a nasty client tell me a few home truths and it put me off doing them (i had so much passion back in the day I trained) so your doing all the right things and asking for critism (sp?) and hopefully take on board and improve - well done you!

I wished I had the confidence to have done that years ago and maybe I wouldn't be so scared to do nail ext on strangers now hehe.

Aww hun thats not nice! When clients approach you in such a way you just have to take it on the chin. On here i dont take it on the chin i take it on board which is good.

You should go back into nails again and get that passion back. I must say if i didnt have salon geek i wouldnt be where i am now! And im so glad i have the chance for someone to give me an honest but nice opinion to help me with my nails.

xx
 
Hiya .. well done for posting and i am aware these are you first full set on a client...so i know that you know they are far from perfect....As you have asked for critique i can only give my honest thoughts...

The first thing that worried me are the red rings of fire.....why are her nail beds so damaged...?

I cant quite make out if these are white tips or not...usually white tips are a perfect smile line with sharp corners at each end of the smile (ears) but yours have no sharp corners...the corners are rounded....did you alter these if they tips...? they also don't appear to fit the nail bed.

There is some product on the skin at the sides of the nail...this will result in lifting.

There also doesn't appear to be any apex....the nail bed area looks very flat.

There is too much white for her nail bed making them look unbalanced....if you reduce the length, therefore the white you would get a much more natural and flattering effect.

The sidewalls need refining to straighten them up...and there are bubbles....but the overall surface of the nail looks smooth...and there seems to be a nice line of light on a couple. Watch for too much product in zone 3 as again this can cause lifting and make the growth more prominent between rebalances.

Hope this helps and again...well done for posting.

These were my thoughts aswell.
Well done for posting your first set on a client and I'm sure you will learn a lot more on your conversion course about extending the nail bed etc
Good on you it's nice to see someone wanting crit for the right reasons.
:hug:
 
When she arrived i looked at her nails and noticed they wernt in that good condition i havent a clue about the rings of fire? She had previously had acrylics on her nails and she had them removed but the previous nail technician didnt remove it all but i havent a clue why they looked like that?

This looks to me like her nails have been totally filed into, you can see the curve where the filing of the cuticle area would have been, usually down to incorrect file control.
If she has also removed them herself (the nasty teeth method) this won't have helped at all...
What do i do when a client in future has nails like this?
as long as there is no sign of a contra-indication, you can carry on as normal, just take extra care with the nails, obviously you will take care of the nails anyway, but extra careful with nails like these I bet they are quite tender ooouuchhh

I did use white tips im not too sure why the edges dont look right as i didnt change anything on the ears at all.
What tips are they ? I noticed millennium nails have changed their tips and the ears are kind of curved now, and the tips much more rigid.... I certainly WON'T be buying them again now... I don't like the new tips at all.

Her nail plates were very small and i probably should have not pushed the tip down that much i did advice the girl to have them shorter but she was adiment she wanted them long
You will learn whats best to do in different situations hun, and your friend will learn what suits her better the more skilled you become, and the more services you offer, the eye needs to become trained on both sides I think....and it will xxx

What can i do to improve myself? I feel like i dont know anything but am i suposed to? or am i ok not to know everything and not notice my mistake when they are in front of me?xx

I think you are doing just fine, I won't critique your nails, as Bagpuss has pretty much said everything I would have too.
But you WILL learn as you go along, and the fact you are willing to post such close up detailed pictures here and ask for advice AND accept it gratefully will get you a LOOONNNGGG LOOONNGG way hun,
I always used to post pictures and took every bit of advice given to me, and It paid off....my nails improved day by day.
God the first set of nails I posted on here were horrific lmao.... but we all start somewhere ..I just started RIGHT at the bottom lol :green:
 
Emmsy thank you for your advice. Its brill.
And im glad im at the right pace and not slacking behind. I will continue to post pics every month or few weeks.

Ps im using the edge tips x
 
Well done for posting!
I wont comment as Bagpuss has covered it. Have you done any sculpting yet as a set of custom blends would look great on those nails and hide those pesky rings of fire. xx
 
Well done for posting!
I wont comment as Bagpuss has covered it. Have you done any sculpting yet as a set of custom blends would look great on those nails and hide those pesky rings of fire. xx

I definitely agree. A nice coverage powder would cover a previous tech's (or irresponsible client's) mistakes. I also am with everyone in commending you in posting large, detailed photos and being so open to learning. You will certainly be an amazing nail tech with that attitude!

Bagpuss has mentioned most of the things that need improving here, but you know, for a first set on a client, I have seen much, much worse! You know about the white...it would look much more balanced if it were shorter or the nail bed extended. The shape is really nice though, soft square. And you have very good consistancy with the shape and length (some people have to work at that, so good job!) I see this is gel. I hope this doesn't sound harsh, but I'd totally toss those tips! They are funky looking and a tip should HELP you create a beautiful nail, not hinder your talent. So that is definitely my first suggestion: get a good, nicely shaped white tip if that is what you prefer to use. Otherwise, I'd suggest clear tips and a white sculpting gel. That way, you can put the tip where you are comfortable and then put the white where it should be.

The sidewalls, as stated, need a bit of tidying. I think maybe you are applying a bit too much gel at once and it's running on you. Unfortunately, anything that touches the skin is garaunteed to lift, so this should be your top priority. Try doing more but thinner layers. Or freeze a thicker, builder layer as soon as you get done so it doesn't run, and move back and forth between hands. (Also, let me just say that a good product with good consistency will help you loads with structure, so this should get much easier after your conversion.)

The third thing I noticed most (again, previously stated) is the flat apex. This is particularly difficult to get right with gel (I know, I went from L&P to gel. Apex horrr!) Start with your gel in the middle and tease it out to the edges. Look at every nail you create from the side...there should be a nice, natural slope. It should always been thickest down the center of the nail. Getting the apex right will give you a lot more strength, also. Sometimes, with some products, you can cure the fingers upside down, giving you an apex without the work. You could try that (probably on yourself first! lol) and see if it helps.

I really do think you're on the right track. After your course, you'll be so confident and I see a very good nail tech coming out of it. I hope all this helps!

Jessica
 
Hi Jessica,

Thank you very much for going into detail, its helped me allot. I dont really like the tips im using my wholesalers dont sell that good of range. Cant wait to start using creative tips i suspect they are much better!

I have never actually tried natural tips and using the white sculpting gel i have got the white gel and natural tips perhaps i should give it a go? When i done my course i did cover natural tips but instead of using sculpting gel to do the french style we painted them on.

Ive learnt so much from posting this critique so thank you all.
Im going to work on my apex and try your tip jessica on myself about cureing the nails upside down.

I will try out a nautal set with sculpting white gel and see how i get on with those
xx
 
Hi Jessica,

Thank you very much for going into detail, its helped me allot. I dont really like the tips im using my wholesalers dont sell that good of range. Cant wait to start using creative tips i suspect they are much better!

If you are going to use white tips the best i have used are CND performance tips in white as they are a lovely soft white.:)
 

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