NSI Line out - will it stop my infilling problems?

[Miss Sylk]

HI. I am rubbish at infills, not had enough practice with acrylic infilling.

Basically i get lines, where the acrylic had lifting (working on my prepping) so i file down best i can, then i apply new acrylic and sometimes afterwards the join is visible, on some nails :-(

Some times when i file close to the edge of the lifted patch, it keeps on lifting so i keep on filing and so on, ending up way down the nail near the edge nowhere near where it should be. Dont know if that made sense?

Any help on infilling or if anyone has used NSI line out? would be great? x

 

[Scottish_girl]

i use lineout when infilling, only on little bits of lifting though as it seems to work better, usually i file off the worst and use lineout on the little bits, works a treat i persoanlly think

hth

 

[angel fingers]

these products can often cause problems with discolouration of the acrylic and breakdown of products too somewhere down the line. they really are best avoided.

if you are getting sustantial lifting its best to go back to the original application to understand why. could be poor prep. could be getting product in contact with skin, maybe the tips are too long and causing leverage that leads to lifting or perhaps you are working too thick at the base of the nail and producing nails that dont flex well in this area and are lifting because of that.

when the application is correct, the lifting will be minimal and will be easy enough to cope with during rebalance.

 

[Nail Envi]

I was having the same problems with rebalancing and infills and hated doing them, but went to do a rebalance course with Fee at the Fingertips and it has made such a difference, still taking about 2 1/2 hours to do a rebalance, but at least I'm happy with them now. I can definitely recommend doing more training, as this is the service that you'll end up doing more than new sets with regular clients. hth

 

[ellewopter]

You need to be filing behind the lifted product so it flakes off and doesn;t travel down the nail, all you do is cause vibrations that will loosen the product further. Avoid using anything to help disguise the problem and do it right in the first place (not being harsh just honest :hug: ) Geeg (i think) has a tutorial on this somewhere and its fab as always! x

And better still look at how to stop it in the first place, been there and believe me its much easier !!!

Agree with the previous post, book yourself in and have a 121 they make so much difference, it will pay for itself 10 fold hth xx

 

[kirsty]

Here's a link to Geegs tutorial, it really helped me.

http://www.salongeek.com/nail-finishing-maintenance/8573-file-control-part-4-during-rebalance.html

 

[NSINAILS]

these products can often cause problems with discolouration of the acrylic and breakdown of products too somewhere down the line. they really are best avoided.

if you are getting sustantial lifting its best to go back to the original application to understand why. could be poor prep. could be getting product in contact with skin, maybe the tips are too long and causing leverage that leads to lifting or perhaps you are working too thick at the base of the nail and producing nails that dont flex well in this area and are lifting because of that.

when the application is correct, the lifting will be minimal and will be easy enough to cope with during rebalance.

I certainly agree that the best solution is to get no lifting at all - continue perfecting your prep and application and don't be afraid of additional training, as some have suggested.

I just wanted to note that Line Out will not yellow or breakdown the acrylic. We've been selling that product since 1997 with a lot of success and never get complaints of yellowing, etc.

 

[Lemmonie]

ooh. A question please.

When using line out and wanting to use the primer how should i use both? Or should i not?

PS Why do i get more lifting with the mask/coverage powders?

 

[Aphrodites]

when you're filing your lifting, are you filing ABOVE the lift? If you are filing on the lift it will keep racing towards the free edge and you are chasing your tail. If you file above the lift to begin with and work down towards the cuticle the lift will pop off and not go any further. Does that make sense?

 

[NSINAILS]

ooh. A question please.

When using line out and wanting to use the primer how should i use both? Or should i not?

PS Why do i get more lifting with the mask/coverage powders?

Here are our recommended steps for Line Out:

#1) Buff down the acrylic until it is flush with the new growth.
#2) Apply Nailpure Plus to cleanse & dehydrate.
#3) Apply your primer to the regrowth area (natural nail) and allow to dry.
#4) Apply Line Out (sparingly) along the acrylic line and allow to dry.
#5) Continue with product application.

As for your lifting issues with coverage powders, I'd make sure that you are using the correct mix ratio. Could you be working too wet by chance?

 

[Lemmonie]

thanks Jessie.

I find the coverage ones rather dry when picking up a bead. Im only holding enough liqid really to make the bead pliable

 

[Bev Robinson]

Hi,

I find you cant beat very thorough prep before application - this then avoids most lifting problems. We managed with out line out for many, many years!

You could prob benifit from a 121 at Nsi. An educator would watch your application & check your ratio/pick up. Unfortunatly there's no quick fix (
sorry.

As you get more experienced you will find your nails will grow down with no or very small amounts of lift.

All the very best please dont get too disillusioned - NSI products are fantasic!

Beverley Robinson
NSI Educator
Manchester & The Midlands

 

[NSINAILS]

thanks Jessie.

I find the coverage ones rather dry when picking up a bead. Im only holding enough liqid really to make the bead pliable

That's probably because of the extra pigment. Maybe try working a little wetter than? Just a suggestion.

 

[Lemmonie]

Do i have a local educator?

West Sussex, nr Gatwick?

 

[Miss Sylk]

Appreciate all these replies, they are all helpfull.

Aphrodites - I may well be doing that as i am scared to file too close to the nail bed and cause damage. Precision is what i must work on there.

Can anyone explain exactly what line out does?

 

[NoLimitNails]

I speak in general terms here, but as far as I'm concerned most lineout products is acetone based products that melts the l&p therefore making the line invisible...

Please correct me if I'm wrong...

 

[Susie H]

The problem with line out, isn't the product itself, it's the fact that it can make you a tad lazy, so you file down, think you're chasing the lifting, i.e. filing on the lift rather then behind it, start fretting that the customer has been sat in front of you for ages and reach for the line out. Only to find that when you buff up or apply your clear top coat, you have a rather dark cloudy looking area smack bang in the middle of zone 2. Why? because you were filing in the right place and it's pocket lifting which you have now sealed in with your line out and a fresh layer of acrylic. Two weeks later, the client has a greenie.
It's all in the technic, unfortunatly even if you have attended the best foundation class in the world, in the prosses of getting going as a tech you forget things.
I'm sure it's here as a tutorial I remember reading it, Gigi wrote it and when I read it I actually felt that special light bulb in side my head light up and thought DOH!!!!
Clients nails in front of you. Examine them, length, shape, where is the apex? Forget the lifting for now.
Take your file, bring the side walls in nice and straight, shorten the nail to the new finished length, Now de-bulk, thin the product down by a third at the free edge and take that apex out, it's in the wrong place now.
Ok now thats all done, look at zone 3 and your lifting. Most if not all of it is gone. What is left is so thin that a couple of swipes with your file just above it will see it flake away. Brush loose stuff away, do cuticle work, scrub fresh that natural nail, let it dry, now apply your nail bonder (if used) let it dry. Remember to use smaller beads for the rebalance, you already have product on the nail, you just want a new smile, a new appex and a nice flush zone 3.
I do have a bottle of line out, it came free with some products I bought, I use it to hold my rhine stones in place when I'm encaseing, works a treat.