NSS Damaged Nails - Sculpt vs Tip&O? HELP!

[Gelly]

I have a new client tonight (I've mentioned her on another thread) We have spoken over the phone - I have not seen her nails.
I would be really grateful for some of your wisdom!!

About Her.
She has been visiting what we would call an NSS salon for the past 3 years and is now suffering.
She has not had nails on for the past 10 days (her first break from MMA and badly used drills in 3 years).
She tells me that her nails are very weak and painful, but as much as she wanted to give them a break, she feels naked without them - so contacted me.

She runs the local stables!
Horses day in day out!
She said that in three years, the only breakage she's had, was caused by a horse biting her finger!!
I explained that the products that have been used on her are designed to be indestructable - but that the price the clients pays, is the destruction of the natural nail.
So I have warned her that breakages can occur as CND technology is designed to 'give' under too much pressure, to avoid injury to the natural nail etc.
She seemed happy with that....... she really does sound like she has learned the hard way.

But I am concerned that on a weak foundation my nails are not going to last on a person who works with horses!
My clients rarely get breakages........ but then none of them have extremly damaged nails and run stables!!

So now you know the background and current situation, here are my questions!

• I wondered if it will make a difference to the strength of the enhancements if I sculpt vs tip and overlay?

Is one method stronger than the other? I prefer to sculpt tbh - but want to do whats best in this situation.

• Any advice on working on badly damaged (specifically NSS) nails?

I have worked on badly bitten nails before and have not had any problems. I'm worried this will be a whole different ball game - these are usually flat and wafer thin aren't they?

• If tips are best, which should I use? Formation?

• Anyone have any experience with horse people? Is there anything I should know!?

• If you think of anything else......!!!!

Thanks :hug:

 

[izzidoll]

It really depends on what they are like...you seem to know what to look for and all the pitfalls, so I am sure you will do well with her.
Personally, from what you have said I would put short, soft square,sculpts on this client. None of my clients were horsey though!!!...although I think there have been a couple of threads about this!!
Good Luck

 

[Bagpuss]

all that springs to my mind is sculpt and make them short....the shorter they are the less pressure on the stress area. And short french looks so nice..:lol:

thing is some people with some jobs just don't make great clients....i have clients that work in kitchens and they have many problems...whereas others have non.

i give these clients the choice...have nice tidy, workable short nails....or long nails and i will be seeing you ever few days for repairs.

I think you have advised her very well and been honest with her....she just has one of those jobs that clashes with nails.

As long as they are nice and short she shouldn't have any problems...once the product is on her natural nails will feel better as they are protected...the tender feeling she is having will feel better.

When nails are damaged like this and the foundations as you say are bad then sometimes the product doesn't adhere very well and this can lead to pocket lifting...(it happened to my nails from over buffing) she needs to be patient and allow for the damage to grow out...then the product will be fine.

 

[Gelly]

Thank you Isabel.
Lol - I searched everything but 'horse'!
I will do that now.

 

[Gelly]

all that springs to my mind is sculpt and make them short....the shorter they are the less pressure on the stress area. And short french looks so nice..:lol:

thing is some people with some jobs just don't make great clients....i have clients that work in kitchens and they have many problems...whereas others have non.

i give these clients the choice...have nice tidy, workable short nails....or long nails and i will be seeing you ever few days for repairs.

I think you have advised her very well and been honest with her....she just has one of those jobs that clashes with nails.

As long as they are nice and short she shouldn't have any problems...once the product is on her natural nails will feel better as they are protected...the tender feeling she is having will feel better.

When nails are damaged like this and the foundations as you say are bad then sometimes the product doesn't adhere very well and this can lead to pocket lifting...(it happened to my nails from over buffing) she needs to be patient and allow for the damage to grow out...then the product will be fine.

Thanks Angi.
If your ears start burning tonight....... I will be quoting you!! :lol:

 

[Classy Claws]

Working length Sculpts (IMO sculpts always build a stronger nail - but then I am anti tipping) My sister is in the same field (horses) had very damaged thin nails due to bitting and picking, the ONLY time she breaks a nail is when one of her horses bites her fingers.