Paid leave for funeral ??

[Bagpuss]

Hiya .. I don't have a clue about this so wondered if any of you would know.

Yesterday Rob and I attended Robs grandma's funeral.

He has been told today that he wont be paid for the day off....but that the members of staff in the office that are on a staff wage (Robs wage is classed as piece work although he is employed by them) do get paid for funeral days.....this sounds wrong to me...???

 

[becki x]

It is wrong :!: But it's how most companies work.

One of Lee's work mates lost his mum on saturday,he doesn't get paid at all so was back in work today,as if the greife isn't enough :grr:

It's so wrong IMO

 

[JoJoPearce]

Ange,

Sorry to hear that rob lost his nan.

When it comes to compassionate leave (you need to check his employee handbook) most companies only offer this when it is a member of your immedate family and does not extend to Grandparents, aunts etc...

Although, saying this when I worked in the city, It was left to managers discression and I cannot remember a time when they made people have unpaid leave.

His boss must be doing it completely by the book.

 

[Bagpuss]

thanks.... if it was the same for everyone then i wouldn't even question it, but to say that the lads in the office get paid but the manuel workers don't is discrimination of some sort.

 

[marioned]

It staggers belief how uncaring some companies are! Surely if there was a bit of "come and go" they would get it back many times over in employee loyalty.

Sorry to hear your sad news Angie. xxxx

 

[sj1973]

Sounds like discrimination doesn't it....what a cheek of them to not pay rob ......

Sorry to hear the sad news Angie...hope someone can help you on this xxxxx

 

[bubbabinks]

I found this on the employment law website (Employment Law)

"There is no legislation to allow staff time off to attend a funeral. However, if you refused to allow staff to book a holiday or take unpaid leave (if holidays have already been taken) this could be deemed unreasonable. As a side issue employees are allowed unpaid leave to deal with a family emergency which would cover if they were the relative charged with dealing with a death and the arrangements of a funeral."

 

[JoJoPearce]

thanks.... if it was the same for everyone then i wouldn't even question it, but to say that the lads in the office get paid but the manuel workers don't is discrimination of some sort.

If they are on the same contract then it would be. He needs to check his contact, employee handbook if they have one. This is where it would be addressed.

 

[Bagpuss]

He has found his handbook and it says that paid leave for funerals is for immediate family...then lists the immediate family as mother, father, sister, brother, in laws.

How odd that they say immediate family is "in law" and not grandmother !!

Anyway he has rang HR and she said that she agrees with Rob about in laws and not grandmothers being allowed.

She also said that its at his managers discretion...so he has rang him and he has now agreed to pay him.

Thanks everyone....I didn't even know rob had a handbook...nor did he till he looked for it...:lol:

 

[sodabubble]

what a bunch of arse. If it's one rule for the pen pushers then your boyfriend should get the same rules too! I'd question this I would not let it rest as it's a matter of principle! Does he subby out to them hun?

 

[sodabubble]

oops I posted too late! Good on him for questioning this, it's good relations if nothing else, for him and his boss

 

[Bagpuss]

what a bunch of arse. If it's one rule for the pen pushers then your boyfriend should get the same rules too! I'd question this I would not let it rest as it's a matter of principle! Does he subby out to them hun?

No he is employed by them....just that his wage structure is different...its not a set wage like the 9-5 lads in the office. The more he does the more he gets paid.

 

[adelekeegan1]

thanks.... if it was the same for everyone then i wouldn't even question it, but to say that the lads in the office get paid but the manuel workers don't is discrimination of some sort.

This applied where I worked as the personnel/payroll manager.

The office staff were paid a flat wage - no overtime etc they got all bank holidays, sick days and funeral days were at the company's discretion (usually paid)

The off-site workers were paid for all hours worked and at enhanced rates for over the working day. They were paid at a greater rate than the office staff but were rarely paid for sick or funeral days.

Overall they ended up with little difference in money. It may not be discrimination and all depends on the contracts they all hold.

I'm sorry to hear of Rob's loss and sorry that he will not be paid for this day. I think companies could do more to explain things and at least look at individual cases:hug:

 

[becki x]

Glad you got it sorted,unfortunately that's one of the differences between salary and wages :grr:

Sorry i forgot to say,hope Rob is ok,you too :hug:

 

[chantell simone]

sorry to hear about the loss of Rob's nan

am glad he got the wages issue sorted though

i wouldn't regard in-laws as immediate family

 

[JoJoPearce]

At least its all sorted now. And good on rob for raisingthe matter and not just accepting it.

 

[adelekeegan1]

Glad it is all sorted:hug:

 

[Noodle]

Have only just seen this thread ... am pleased to hear that everything has now been sorted though.

 

[Little Angel]

Time off for dependants (compassionate leave) : Directgov - Employment

That link above should answer anyone's questions on leave, on that site is everything you are entitled to.

 

[Peter Pan]

i always thought that workers only got paid for this if it was IMMEDIATE family (mother, father, wife etc) nana doesnt count as immediate family, either way its not right. its always different strokes for different folks aint it, and so unfair. robs nana is close and family, so why should he be treated diff to the office workers.