Patch Testing for Lash Extensions

[lisa21]

Hi

I'm a mobile therapist and wondered how much others charged for Patch Testing for Lash Extensions and what you actually did for that.

Some questions: ......

Do you just test the adhesive with a couple of test lashes on outer corners of each eye?

Do you charge a certain amount which is redeemable on day? A friend of mine who works from a home salon charges £25.00 and applies half a dozen to each eye and this cost is redeemable on the day of the application - only concern I have is that I am then going out and spending half an hour on top of treatment on the day and earning nothing for those 30 mins if you see what I mean.

Do you actually take your massage table for client to lie on in order to correctly position the lashes or just get the client to lie on settee (which I don't think would look professional!)?

Would really appreciate your thoughts.

Thanks

 

[angelina221]

I don't do lash extensions but am intrigued as to why you would put a few lashes on to do a patch test!
Surely you just patch test the products behind the ear as you do with eyelash perms and tints.
Your client would look a bit silly walking around with 6 or so lashes on
I also don't know anyone who charges for a patch test, surely this is factored into your price.
If your client does have a reaction then it's better to have a reaction behind the ear than on the eyes-isn't that the whole point of a patch test?

 

[Bev Rose]

There is no real need for patch testing as the adhesive does not touch the skin - only the eyelash. That's what I was told on my course.
However, if you have a person who can be sensitive to certain eye products, it may be worth doing one.
Also, I use micropore tape, so I do ask if they have allergies to sticking plaster.

 

[Bonkers]

I normally charge £20 for the initial consultation and at the same time apply a couple of lashes to the outer corner of the eye. The £20 is redeemable off full set and also secures the booking, i only do this if someone hasnt had a set done before as most of mine are regulars and also have had them on before. I also use micropore tape so ask if they have allergies etc it is helpful as it cuts down on the time for the actual application of lashes and you can have lashes ready for when they are to be applied.

 

[Miss Star]

I just don't understand why you would attach lashes for a patch test???

I'm not trained in Lashes but I know for perming and tints you have to patch test at least 24hrs prior behind the ear or inside the elbow. For eyelash perming I have to patch test the adhesive. Can you imagine what would happen to someones eyes if they were allergic? Surely it would be better to have a reaction on your arm rather than your eyes!

Sorry, I no this isn't my thing but it does seem rather daft...

 

[jotommo]

There is no real need for patch testing as the adhesive does not touch the skin - only the eyelash. That's what I was told on my course.
However, if you have a person who can be sensitive to certain eye products, it may be worth doing one.
Also, I use micropore tape, so I do ask if they have allergies to sticking plaster.

this is also what i do... as the adhesive is not touching the eye or skin at all,
and obviosly the tape is the same as people have allergies to plasters x

 

[Miss Star]

If the adhesive is not touch the eye or skin then why do you need to apply a few lashes to the outer eye as Kelshah and Lisa21 said they do?

 

[jotommo]

i'm not sure?? depends on what they were tought?? like i say no glue touches the eyes at all when they are applied.
just on the lash.
i'm worried now that i should be doing this??? x

 

[rouge]

The adhesive in the eyelash perm does not touch the skin either, but you still have to patch test it. I was informed when doing my training that the adhesive is the product people are most likely to have a reaction to. If that's the case with ELperm I can't see why it would be any different with lash extensions. I don't think I'd like to take the risk of having someone's eyes react to an untested product.

 

[jotommo]

Hi


Do you actually take your massage table for client to lie on in order to correctly position the lashes or just get the client to lie on settee (which I don't think would look professional!)?

Would really appreciate your thoughts.

Thanks

do you mean just for the test or the actual full set??
either way, yes you need to take massage table, it would be near impossible without! xxxxxxxxx

 

[tigi]

i patch test the glue, the sealer and the remover and i always check that they are fine with micropore. I personally am allergic to fabric plasters and micropore. so i have included it as a quick question on the consult card.

I always patch test any new client . its just become habit now for me.

 

[DEBI-DEE]

Hi

I'm a mobile therapist and wondered how much others charged for Patch Testing for Lash Extensions and what you actually did for that.
I would be more inclined to call it a deposit to secure the appointment rather than charging for a patch test
Some questions: ......

Do you just test the adhesive with a couple of test lashes on outer corners of each eye?
When i was trained i was led to believe that if a client was going to be sensitive to the adhesive it would become apparent after a few lashes on each eye

Do you charge a certain amount which is redeemable on day?
Obviously if you take a deposit it will be deducted from the price of the treatment on the day
A friend of mine who works from a home salon charges £25.00 and applies half a dozen to each eye and this cost is redeemable on the day of the application - only concern I have is that I am then going out and spending half an hour on top of treatment on the day and earning nothing for those 30 mins if you see what I mean.
It should only take you 5 minutes to apply a few lashes to each eye. By the time you set up and do your consultation it could well be half an hour but you should really take all this into consideration when your making up your prices.

Do you actually take your massage table for client to lie on in order to correctly position the lashes or just get the client to lie on settee (which I don't think would look professional!)?

Would really appreciate your thoughts.

Thanks

Hope this helps:hug:

 

[DEBI-DEE]

If the adhesive is not touch the eye or skin then why do you need to apply a few lashes to the outer eye as Kelshah and Lisa21 said they do?

It may be the vapours from the adhesive the client reacts to.

 

[angelina221]

Do you just test the adhesive with a couple of test lashes on outer corners of each eye?
When i was trained i was led to believe that if a client was going to be sensitive to the adhesive it would become apparent after a few lashes on each eye

Surely then it would be too late if they have a reaction!
That's the same as say putting an eyelash perm on and seeing if they have a reaction after the first couple of minutes isn't it?
If they can have a reaction to the glue, remover or the sealant then surely you should patch test them before putting it anywhere near the eyes.
Am i being incredibly stupid here? :irked:

 

[Miss Star]

Surely then it would be too late if they have a reaction!
That's the same as say putting an eyelash perm on and seeing if they have a reaction after the first couple of minutes isn't it?
If they can have a reaction to the glue, remover or the sealant then surely you should patch test them before putting it anywhere near the eyes.
Am i being incredibly stupid here? :irked:

Well Angelina221, if your being incredibly stupid - add me to the list!! :lol:

Is it that different companies are telling people different things? Or am I being over cautious and patch testing for everything???

 

[cabinkel]

To patch test, I was taught to just swipe a little adhesive up a couple of lashes of each eye, not apply an actual lash, (as yes, this can look odd)
All new clients should be patch tested as a precaution. If you think about it, its better to find out with a couple of swipes of adhesive that there could be a sensitivity issue, than a whole set of lashes applied, then more product applied to remove. hth

 

[jotommo]

it totally makes sense to test first after reading this!!
and i shall be doing so from now on..............
really this should be pointed out when getting trained!! :irked:

 

[DEBI-DEE]

They could be allergic to the under-eye gel pads too. Why dont we stick one of them behind their ears as well!!!!!

I react to eyelash tint near my eyes but nothing shows up on a patch test.

I have had 2 clients who have had irritation with the adhesive after a couple of lashes. I have stopped the treatment, thoroughly rinsed the eyes, and no harm done.

I have no eyelash perming experience so i cant comment on patch testing for this.

I follow the training i was given and so far i have had no problems.

 

[cabinkel]

it totally makes sense to test first after reading this!!
and i shall be doing so from now on..............
really this should be pointed out when getting trained!! :irked:

It was included in my training. It does seem that some companies have their own "theory" on this though as I know a few companies dont train to patch test.

 

[angelina221]

They could be allergic to the under-eye gel pads too. Why dont we stick one of them behind their ears as well!!!!!

I react to eyelash tint near my eyes but nothing shows up on a patch test.

QUOTE]

If nothing shows up on the patch test and then you get a reaction at least you will be covered by your insurance. You need to follow manufacturers instructions because if you don't, your client can sue you!
People could well have done a course where they weren't told to patch test but if the manufacturers say you need to patch test then you need to patch test.
I would check with your insurance company just to make sure.
We could all be flippant and say 'let's see if they are allergic to the bristles in the brush' etc.... but this is not a requirement of insurers. It's always best to err on the side of caution as
1-you don't want to cause any unneccessary discomfort to your client
and
2-you really don't want to get sued!