Problems with finishing gloss

[nikki201]

Hi i normally use acrylics for my nail enhancments but decided to buy a uv gel lamp and sone finishing gloss to put over the top of my finished nails for extra shine etc, as i thought it would be better than a normal top coat. MY uv lamp is 6watt i think, i have tried applying gel on my bosses nails and curing it but it takes ages and i noticed most tutorials are saying just a couple of mins etc... can someone tell me where i am going wrong? If i am doing this right at all? I got trained in acrylics so dont know much about gel nails.. thanks xx

 

[angel fingers]

most gels require [specify] a 9 watt light these days

what gloss are you using, is it a non cleansing one or one that needs the sticky layer removing ?

 

[FingerNailFixer]

What brand of finishing gloss are you using? There is probably a specific lamp to cure it with, does the manufacturer of the gloss offer a lamp?
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[akaza]

Hi,

Like the other geeks have mentioned, the brand of gel you are using may have a required wattage and curing time to follow.

How are you preparing your nails before the gel application?

Normally with L+P you buff the scratches out and then buff to a high shine and apply clear polish (if you wish)...with gel, you are to skip this step and apply the gel to unbuffed nailsl as it needs something to adhere to.

hth x x

 

[AdelleNailsIt]

Hiya

I am like you, and do acrylics only and thought that I would try the Finish It by Ezflow. I bought the product and the lamp, both from Ezflow, and found that it took AGES to cure the product. I rang Ezflow and they said that I shouldn't be using the lamp with batteries, that I need to buy an adaptor and plug it into the wall.... they ones they supply only come with batteries.

This may be your problem also???

Thanks

 

[sian1979]

my 'light it' lamp doesnt take batteries i dont think (will check tomorrow now, lol!!) and came with a mains plug...i didnt have to buy one (i would have been quite annoyed if i had)...... (may be the lamps are different in new zealand) i have never had problems with it curing...it always takes 2-3 min.

 

[spn01]

Gel/Finishing Gloss/Gel Topcoats are required to be cured under a UV Lamp specified by the manufacture, otherwise you run the risk of undercuring, thus leading to overexposure.

When using a gel top coat for finishing, finish file your l&p enhancements with a 180grit file and ensure all dust is removed. Apply top coat and set in the recommended UV Lamp for the required time.

Please note that some UV Gel topcoats have a inhibition layer (a tacky layer on top after the gel has been cured) this must be removed.

 

[geeg]

most gels require a 9 watt light these days

what gloss are you using, is it a non cleansing one or one that needs the sticky layer removing ?

Actually, the wattage of a UV lamp has nothing at all to do with the curing of UV gels.

It is the amount of UV emission from the bulb and the number of bulbs and the correct placement of the bulbs that has everything to do with effecting a complete cure, and this varies with different gels obviously as all gels are not the same.

spn01 has said everything perfectly ... see below

Gel/Finishing Gloss/Gel Topcoats are required to be cured under a UV Lamp specified by the manufacture, otherwise you run the risk of undercuring, thus leading to overexposure.

When using a gel top coat for finishing, finish file your l&p enhancements with a 180grit file and ensure all dust is removed. Apply top coat and set in the recommended UV Lamp for the required time.

Please note that some UV Gel topcoats have a inhibition layer (a tacky layer on top after the gel has been cured) this must be removed.

 

[nikki201]

wow thanks for all the replys.. I am using millenum nails high gloss top coat with a uv lamp that i got out of beauty direct it is made by dayglo, millenium nails did not offer a uv lamp i dont thinlk? anyone else use this gel? It does not accept batteries as far as i am aware.. it only has a lead that attaches to the wall.. now you mention it, there is a tacky layer at the top after curing.. thats what is making me think they have not cured properly i think!! how do i remove this without damaging the finished effect and so keeping it smooth and shiny? I am just applying the acrylic and smoothing it out with the white block file as usual and not buffing etc as i thought the gel might need something to stick to? xx

also how think do you apply the gel? Is it only a very thin layer? do you have to try and build it onto the nail like when doing acrylics (in stages) or do you just brush the gel on with the brush and cure it? thanks again guys xx

 

[akaza]

Hi,

you have to be generous with your gel coat as if you apply it too thin, it will look dusty, and will not look glossy.

To remove the tacky layer I normaly use non acetone nail polish remover.

hth x x

 

[spn01]

now you mention it, there is a tacky layer at the top after curing.. thats what is making me think they have not cured properly i think!! how do i remove this without damaging the finished effect and so keeping it smooth and shiny? what does your system recommend, is there a gel residue cleanser? I use cnd brisa and remove inhibition layer with cnd scrubfresh. Once inhibition layer is removed you will have a shiney enhancement.

also how think do you apply the gel? Is it only a very thin layer? do you have to try and build it onto the nail like when doing acrylics (in stages) or do you just brush the gel on with the brush and cure it? thanks again guys xx

This should have been covered in your gel training. I would advise you to contact your educator/distributor for support

 

[spn01]

Hi,

you have to be generous with your gel coat as if you apply it too thin, it will look dusty, and will not look glossy.

To remove the tacky layer I normaly use non acetone nail polish remover.

hth x x

Be careful that you do not apply your gel to thickly (better to have several thin applications) as the uv light/lamp will not be able to penetrate and fully cure.

 

[angel fingers]

millenium will have a u.v cleanser that is made for the job of wiping away that sticky layer.

you must file the nail to the required shape, remove dust then wipe with the cleanser.
apply your gloss like a generous layer of polish. cure for the required amount of time. then use the cleanser to wipe the tacky layer off.

that tacky layer does not mean the gel is not cured, its normal.
when you wipe the nails be sure to do it in a base to tip direction so that it is not spread onto the clients skin as it may cause an allergy eventually.

you do not need to apply more coats and you do not need gel training for using a gel topcoat.

there are non cleansing topcoats available, i use lechat protech and there is no messing around with the wiping afterwards.

 

[nikki201]

thanks so much for all your help im doing some more tomo and feel much bbetter about it all now!!
niki xxx