Renting a chair in a salon.

[EmmaJayne.]

Hi i am currently mobile atthe moment but i have beehn asked to rent a chair in a salon. few questions.
1. would i have to register as selfemploeyd?
2. what is a reasonable price to rent a room if 1. i am buying my own products or 2. they incude products

i am going tomorrow to meet her and discuss questions i may have. i have written a few down but i just wonder if they are the right sort of questions. please can you help and give me an idea.

i have already looked on this site and got some ideas so please dont reccommend ,that like i noticed on a few other posts i read about renting, to read the previous posts about renting. if that makes sense.

Any ideas/help welcome

thanks in advance

 

[EmmaJayne.]

Forgot to mention its nails i specialise in. xx

 

[bellabeautie]

Hi, I suppose it all depends on what conditions she offers you. If you have to supply all your products and pay a set rent every week/month and get no wages, then yes you would have to register as self employed. Its difficult to say on prices, it varies in different areas xx

 

[claireamy]

You should already be registered as self employed whilst working as mobile actually.

It depends really if it is a set rent per day or week or if its done on a percentage basis. Irent desks to nail techs from my salon and its one percentage if they use their own products and another if they use my products.

Hope that helps a bit x

 

[EmmaJayne.]

i rang hm revenu and they said because i was working aswell (employed) and only charging "training" prices it was only covering petrol costs and equipement i didnt need to be registered. i think id prefer to pay a weekly amount so i no where i am tbh but ill see today what they say i have quite a few questions wrote down i just wanted to make sure i hadnt missed anything. thanks xx

 

[EmmaJayne.]

an update on this. i sorted everything out and everything seemed perfect she started by saying

i can leave when i wanted to (obviously giving them at least a weeks notice) i work my own hours im my own boss i decorate how i like i only pay the xamount a week. they will advertise everything and pay for it,i can open up sometimes alone etc etc

then when i spoke again

I have to sign a 12 months contract, i have to stick to black purple and grey, i can only work their opening times,i have to advertise myself i have to pay 900 UP FRONT!!! which your not guarenteed to get back. i.e slight chippings in walls damages from posters being took down shelves etc etc ... (thats what she wants the money for.)

personally i think this is unfair that everything has changed and as for the 900 upfront thats just pathetic! i dont think they would get it off anyone 900 especially not a 20year old just starting out!

does anyone else think this is wrong or is it just me? fair enough a little bit of a bond but not 900! x

 

[leonnib]

no that is too much.. i cant see anyone agreeing to do this...

ive asked for two weeks deposit from my nail tech and one week rent in advance.

 

[persianista]

It's quite normal to ask for 4 weeks rent up front. If you have a large enough clientele to justify renting a chair then it shouldn't be an issue.
You should easily earn 900 in a week so that doesn't seem excessive.
If you work self employed then of course there is much more risk than if you are employed. If you don't want any risk then it's worth getting a job.
If you rent a chair then its YOUR business and you provide your own equipment products advertising plus do your own books and pay your own tax. Nobody else will do it for you!

 

[wg19]

It's quite normal to ask for 4 weeks rent up front. If you have a large enough clientele to justify renting a chair then it shouldn't be an issue.
You should easily earn 900 in a week so that doesn't seem excessive.
If you work self employed then of course there is much more risk than if you are employed. If you don't want any risk then it's worth getting a job.
If you rent a chair then its YOUR business and you provide your own equipment products advertising plus do your own books and pay your own tax. Nobody else will do it for you!

From reading Emmajayne's profile she is a newcomer to the nail industry (early 09) - I would think it highly unlikley that she would be anywhere near being in the position of "easily earning 900 in a week"!

I may be wrong on this but it is highly unlikley that in such a short time she would have a big enough regular client base to have this kind of turnover.

 

[sian1979]

From reading Emmajayne's profile she is a newcomer to the nail industry (early 09) - I would think it highly unlikley that she would be anywhere near being in the position of "easily earning 900 in a week"!

I may be wrong on this but it is highly unlikley that in such a short time she would have a big enough regular client base to have this kind of turnover.

i have to agree, i have only been in the industry for just under 2 years. i know i only work part time but there is no way i would earn that where i am. i could probably pay the rent/mortgage for my own place for that.
My client base is still up and down....but since settling into a salon it is getting better each week.
i think that offer does sound unreasonable and i would have a look elsewhere to see what other offers are about....most people I think are quite reasonable especially if you are a new commer to a trade and will offer you a good rate to start with and review later on down the line when you are more established.

 

[persianista]

People don't normally make allowances for someone being a newcomer. You can't rent a penthouse flat and ask for a cheap rent because your not paid enough to cover the market rent now can you!
If you are not in a position to take the risk of setting up on your own then you really can't expect somebody else (who owes you nothing) to take less money or bear part of the risk. If the desk is worth xxxx and you havent got a big enough client list to cover it then it's hardly her problem is it?

 

[Exquisite Touch]

when i rented at a hair dressers I had to pay £1200 deposit and £90 a week supply all my own furniture and products and my own advertising, I had to sign a 3 year contract but had a get out clause in it.

it was a good starting point as i have now got my own premises and all my clients from the hairdressers have followed me
hth