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Hi geeks!,

Currently searching for a good RF device to offer for facial treatments (possibly for body in the future). Are any of you using RF in your treatments, and if so do you like your device or would recommend it? I'm doing my initial outlay so trying to establish costs so any help would be much appreciated!

P.S. I am open to more affordable models and potentially more expensive models if they could have a payment plan.
 

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I’ve got a RF machine. It’s a combination unit with ultrasound cavitation and led. I’m sure the price has lowered but when I was investigating you needed to invest a minimum of £6k.

I would just say from personal experience that you need to be very careful with buying equipment. Your clients will expect you to have something but you need to divide your investment by your planned treatment cost and work out how many treatments you need to do to break even. I like to break even in 6 months on my investment costs and this is perfectly achievable with a manual facial. With a machine it’s a struggle to cover in 2 years or the warranty period. I bought a reconditioned machine as my first investment with a 3 month warranty and of course it developed a small fault just outside the warranty period and the fault wasn’t repairable. I struggled on and eventually earned my money back only for it to give up the ghost just as I’d established a market base. I reviewed my sales and realised that I had rarely successfully cross or upsold clients who bought courses with this machine.

Now I know lots of salons who buy additional machines because they sell so many treatments so I’m not saying it’s impossible, just that their experience isn’t typical.

Clients love novelty and some will shop around different salons trying everything. It’s hard to build up regulars which are essential if you’re spending as much on a machine as a good part-time receptionist or a past-time junior. Investing in people will often generate more additional revenue than a machine can earn you.

just ask yourself what you would think if your dentist greeted you at the door, took your coat, checked you in and rebooked you. Would you think s/he was working efficiently? High ticket investments are not essential in the beginning for a one man band IMHO
 

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Your comment certainly touches on a few points that I need to consider. I noticed many of the "solid" RF machines, without the ability to work on the body start at £2.5k and get snazzier/more expensive quite quickly. As I am looking to offer more of a bespoke electrical and advanced facial (as opposed to offering stand alone RF) I have settled on a device that has RF and electroporation. It's for face only but I believe that would suit me more, I would struggle to think many regulars would want RF body treatments by me and those that did would probably be more "Clients love novelty and some will shop around.." types.

The device with VAT is £1,450.00, certainly not to be snuffed at as it will be the second most expensive piece of kit, but I believe with RF and even the electroporation I could really offer some effective treatments without paying 6k+ for some of the snazzier models that offer body treatment settings.

I plan on not spending much more on kit/upgrading until the time is needed, being cautious to buy from reputable suppliers with warranties, trustpilot reviews and customer support teams. I hate the fact that you found issues when out of warranty and I can't imagine how frustrating that must have been! The only reconditioned/used items I would buy would be more like hot cabis, electric mitts/boots, oil heater, hot stone heater. Things that would be a bugger if they broke but wouldn't need to re-morgage the house to replace.

I'm sitting down with my father-in-law for some advise as he is much more involved in the figures and numbers. I think at present I want to break my initial outlay/investment costs over the first 3-5 years to pay myself back this initial cost.... just waiting for the very dreaded remodeling cost! Wish me luck!
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Your comment certainly touches on a few points that I need to consider. I noticed many of the "solid" RF machines, without the ability to work on the body start at £2.5k and get snazzier/more expensive quite quickly. As I am looking to offer more of a bespoke electrical and advanced facial (as opposed to offering stand alone RF) I have settled on a device that has RF and electroporation. It's for face only but I believe that would suit me more, I would struggle to think many regulars would want RF body treatments by me and those that did would probably be more "Clients love novelty and some will shop around.." types.

The device with VAT is £1,450.00, certainly not to be snuffed at as it will be the second most expensive piece of kit, but I believe with RF and even the electroporation I could really offer some effective treatments without paying 6k+ for some of the snazzier models that offer body treatment settings.

I plan on not spending much more on kit/upgrading until the time is needed, being cautious to buy from reputable suppliers with warranties, trustpilot reviews and customer support teams. I hate the fact that you found issues when out of warranty and I can't imagine how frustrating that must have been! The only reconditioned/used items I would buy would be more like hot cabis, electric mitts/boots, oil heater, hot stone heater. Things that would be a bugger if they broke but wouldn't need to re-morgage the house to replace.

I'm sitting down with my father-in-law for some advise as he is much more involved in the figures and numbers. I think at present I want to break my initial outlay/investment costs over the first 3-5 years to pay myself back this initial cost.... just waiting for the very dreaded remodeling cost! Wish me luck!
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Hi I would be interested in knowing the brand of the machine you have purchased please so so could look at it myself ..good luck with your purchase I’m sure you will make it work.
 

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Hi I would be interested in knowing the brand of the machine you have purchased please so so could look at it myself ..good luck with your purchase I’m sure you will make it work.
Heya! Its the Dual Inject pro+ from 4tmedical :)
 

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Heya! Its the Dual Inject pro+ from 4tmedical :)
It's great as it offer the mesotherapy AND radio frequency. I think it's going to be a superior alternative to older modalities like micro current and galvanic. I'll be using this device to replace both of those modalities!
 

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Hey!

did you decide to go for the dual injector pro? I’ve been considering it.

thank you!
 

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Hey!

did you decide to go for the dual injector pro? I’ve been considering it.

thank you!
Hello, I've yet to purchase as it will be needed when I start trading/providing services again. This isn't until late winter/spring. Out of due diligence I have `double and triple checked that I'd be happy with my choice and at present I still feel very satisfied in this option. I will have two treatment rooms so if I feel the need to offer RF for body treatment, I would keep the duo injector pro and simply buy a bigger machine that offer body and face - just quite pricey to make that investment now. Hope that answers your question.
 

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